Brexit, for once some facts.
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TM will make concession on Irish border. Bloomberg reported.
The pound rose as much as 0.7% to $1.3116 this afternoon.
The pound rose as much as 0.7% to $1.3116 this afternoon.
May also disowned the “Irish backstop” that she herself had agreed with the EU last December. The backstop provides, in effect, for Northern Ireland to stay in the EU customs unions and single market in the event of Great Britain leaving them at the end of the Brexit implementation period in 2020, as the only viable way to prevent a new border in Ireland.
Without this backstop the EU would, rightly, have declined to enter into negotiations with May on a post-Brexit economic deal, since the UK would be in breach of the 1998 Good Friday agreement, an international treaty the UK is bound to maintain.
This all neatly aligns with a Canada deal,except the DUP will vote it down together with Labour so it will never get through our parliament.
Which then means that to stand any chance of getting through TM will have to agree to the whole of the UK staying in the customs union,the Tory bastards will throw out their toys but it will get voted through...end result BRINO,hehe !!!
KudosDave
Without this backstop the EU would, rightly, have declined to enter into negotiations with May on a post-Brexit economic deal, since the UK would be in breach of the 1998 Good Friday agreement, an international treaty the UK is bound to maintain.
This all neatly aligns with a Canada deal,except the DUP will vote it down together with Labour so it will never get through our parliament.
Which then means that to stand any chance of getting through TM will have to agree to the whole of the UK staying in the customs union,the Tory bastards will throw out their toys but it will get voted through...end result BRINO,hehe !!!
KudosDave
Classic in the Telegraph
Boris is getting confused
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Let's spend our foreign aid budget on the British people's priorities and save the elephants
BORIS JOHNSON
Poor lad, we were promised "UNICORNS" not "ELEPHANTS" from Brexit
Boris is getting confused
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Let's spend our foreign aid budget on the British people's priorities and save the elephants
BORIS JOHNSON
Poor lad, we were promised "UNICORNS" not "ELEPHANTS" from Brexit
Interestingly different rules in (North) Macedonia re referendums:
Macedonian PM issues ultimatum in name-change battle
Zoran Zaev tells opposition MPs to back proposal or he will call early election
With all results in on Monday, the state electoral commission announced that voter participation stood at 36.8%, far short of the 50% needed to make the result valid, although 91.4% of ballots cast were in favour of the accord.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/01/macedonian-pm-issues-ultimatum-in-name-change-battle
Was there any sort of minimum turnout requirement for the brexit referendum? I think not.
OK, so brexit had a pretty high turnout so this specific challenge to the result would not have applied as it happened. So really just an observation.
Macedonian PM issues ultimatum in name-change battle
Zoran Zaev tells opposition MPs to back proposal or he will call early election
With all results in on Monday, the state electoral commission announced that voter participation stood at 36.8%, far short of the 50% needed to make the result valid, although 91.4% of ballots cast were in favour of the accord.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/01/macedonian-pm-issues-ultimatum-in-name-change-battle
Was there any sort of minimum turnout requirement for the brexit referendum? I think not.
OK, so brexit had a pretty high turnout so this specific challenge to the result would not have applied as it happened. So really just an observation.
Just who do you think would buy the DUP? However far down river. (Unless they still have the odd 100 million or so in their back pockets.)
This might come in handy when you're cooking your chlorinated chicken:
Tom
Tom
No there wasn't, an illustration of how badly it was set up. It's widely thought that for such an important issue there should have been two requirements, a minimum turnout such as 70% and a minimum margin such as 60/40.
Trouble is that David Cameron and many others in government complacently thought that a Remain result was a foregone conclusion and the outcome shocked them.
The fact that the public had voted them in at the general election should have told them how stupid the public can be.
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they could even be stupid enough to vote Corbyn inNo there wasn't, an illustration of how badly it was set up. It's widely thought that for such an important issue there should have been two requirements, a minimum turnout such as 70% and a minimum margin such as 60/40.
Trouble is that David Cameron and many others in government complacently thought that a Remain result was a foregone conclusion and the outcome shocked them.
The fact that the public had voted them in at the general election should have told them how stupid the public can be.
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Why does he frighten you so much?
Do you enjoy being taken for a sucker by the Conservatives? the only thing they excel at is misleading the gullible section of the voting public,who laughably imagine they give a damn for their well being, and that being a Tory put them above the "common herd" who had voted for "New Labour" ( the Tory party wearing a different coloured tie)
And for your information, I didn't vote for them either.
Now I ask you, as someone belonging to that group, who are you to call people stupid?
Who will I vote for?
With Brexit going ahead. No one at all
When it crashes? Corbyn, naturally, as the only one who stands even an outside chance of doing some good, even though I have great reservations about his chance of success at sorting out the economy.
At least he will try
The Tories will simply hold a "Closing Down everything must go Sale" and decamp to where they have squirelled away their ill gotten gains.
After all this is the only way they know to run the country.
Would you like a list of the various ways they have ripped us both off over the years?
But here is a better idea, for the first time in you life make an effort and check for the facts of what they have done.
The advice the EU gave Hunt when he compared the EU with the USSR applies equally to you
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EU tells Jeremy Hunt he could benefit from ‘opening a history book occasionally’
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/06/jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-labour-conservative-brexit-jewish/530046/
We should fear Corbyn far more than Brexit.
What is truly frightening is that you pass yourself off as a socialist and actually subscribe to the views expressed in the link to blatant right wing fiction as you just did.
Who do you think you are kidding?
Your disguise wears thinner with every post you make.
he doesn't frighten me. I just think he is an incompetent buffoon, who is just recycling old ideas that will take the country to bankruptcy. If he tried to run a business like he wants to run the country he would be booted out very quickly
Jumping to conclusions again. Corbyn has made Labour unelectable. You also say some very stupid things. Michael Totten is an American journalist. He is neither a Tory or Conservative or anything of kind. He is simply expressing a view from another perspective.
In scheme of things I hardly think an individuals opinions, or actually reporting of others opinions, can be described as truly frightening. It's quite ridiculous .
Only you could find an argument in something we actually agree on., ie) Corbyn should never be PM.
We should however have a viable Labour alternative to Tories. We have no such thing at moment.
(BTW OG, Author of link voted for Obama, and is seen as a centrist... With democrat leanings. I haven't got a clue where that puts him on our spectrum, but no doubt you have)
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If Labour can't get its act together I suspect May would be least dangerous. Hardly a recommendation when we are choosing a PM in a damage limitation exercise..
So, yes I, d say May. I really worry for country if Corbyn did get in. I think it's really frightening.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/831331/Brexit-news-Michael-Portillo-blasts-European-Union-not-respecting-EU-referendum
If he came back he would be a good option.
So, yes I, d say May. I really worry for country if Corbyn did get in. I think it's really frightening.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/831331/Brexit-news-Michael-Portillo-blasts-European-Union-not-respecting-EU-referendum
If he came back he would be a good option.
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