Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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And aren't they expensive? Well, the one on our microwave went. Initially thought we'd just use it without but that was very unsatisfactory. So searched to get a suitable replacement and the price was far more than I expected - and I could easily have paid twice that.

We have four - as you plus the two in the cooker hood. Which is disappointing but hardly end-of-world stuff. I think an LED could be used in place.

(Even before LEDs were available, let alone reasonably priced, we had a range of CFLs and similar which represented a considerable electricity usage reduction. Have been delighted that LEDs have seemed consistently better than expected whereas all too many CFLs were horrible.)
You can easily replace the bulb in the cooker hood from incandescent to either Cfl or led. However the oven or microwave oven needs the official nhigh temperature laddies. And they are now expensive... There is rarity value as the soldering used to the external metal bayonet or Edison part is at a higher melting point than an ordinary bulb...
 

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In the UK, very high speed trains seem the wrong approach to me. Universal fairly fast trains might have done far more for us. Something like 125 to 150 mph. All electric (including Swansea). Improved track.
Though I understand the relevance of point you make, my preference is for circa 300 mph high speed since it could enable compulsory removal of most internal airline routes. That in turn would greatly reduce both additional runway needs and aircraft noise nuisance.
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Though I understand the relevance of point you make, my preference is for circa 300 mph high speed since it could enable compulsory removal of most internal airline routes. That in turn would greatly reduce both additional runway needs and aircraft noise nuisance.
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Rather agree about internal flights. However, even now we have trains managing London to Manchester in only a few minutes over two hours.

Even being quite optimistic, getting checked in, boarded, flight, through the terminal at the far end can easily take that long. Quite often, getting to/from the airports further adds substantially to the effective journey times.

My last Scottish train journey included Newcastle-upon-Tyne to Edinburgh which at that time seemed to manage about 50 mph. (It looks now to be more like 80/90.) So even 125 would make quite a difference.

300 mph (and similar) always makes me suspect that the number of stations served will be very small. It is bad enough on 125 trains, but at each increment upwards, there is greater reason to avoid stops.
 
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You can easily replace the bulb in the cooker hood from incandescent to either Cfl or led. However the oven or microwave oven needs the official nhigh temperature laddies. And they are now expensive... There is rarity value as the soldering used to the external metal bayonet or Edison part is at a higher melting point than an ordinary bulb...
Next time the microwave lamp blows, it will be time for a replacement microwave. :) We had it for something like 15 years before it blew.

And, having replaced it, I have become acutely conscious of its energy usage. We are now punctilious about closing the oven door. :)
 
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Rather agree about internal flights. However, even now we have trains managing London to Manchester in only a few minutes over two hours.

Even being quite optimistic, getting checked in, boarded, flight, through the terminal at the far end can easily take that long. Quite often, getting to/from the airports further adds substantially to the effective journey times.

My last Scottish train journey included Newcastle-upon-Tyne to Edinburgh which at that time seemed to manage about 50 mph. (It looks now to be more like 80/90.) So even 125 would make quite a difference.

300 mph (and similar) always makes me suspect that the number of stations served will be very small. It is bad enough on 125 trains, but at each increment upwards, there is greater reason to avoid stops.
All true, but unfortunately getting people away from planes onto trains only seems to work when the train journey is very much faster, the time gain very obvious and large. Choosing to fly is too often a bad habit.

Perhaps the ideal answer is to have the ultra high speed inter city train routes and also upgrade the present lines to rapid transit with multiple stops.
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Rather agree about internal flights. However, even now we have trains managing London to Manchester in only a few minutes over two hours.

Even being quite optimistic, getting checked in, boarded, flight, through the terminal at the far end can easily take that long. Quite often, getting to/from the airports further adds substantially to the effective journey times.

My last Scottish train journey included Newcastle-upon-Tyne to Edinburgh which at that time seemed to manage about 50 mph. (It looks now to be more like 80/90.) So even 125 would make quite a difference.

300 mph (and similar) always makes me suspect that the number of stations served will be very small. It is bad enough on 125 trains, but at each increment upwards, there is greater reason to avoid stops.
Logically that would say mean a London Edinburgh run of about 1 hour . with the train starting from Cornwall and terminating in Aberdeen Or 1 hour and 10 minutes if there was a stop in mid England. Then your 125 speed train would ferry people from Liverpool to midengland and another would bring those from Hastings to London. Ie very high speed trunk line and fast intermediate feeders and then more local commuter services.
 

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All true, but unfortunately getting people away from planes onto trains only seems to work when the train journey is very much faster, the time gain very obvious and large. Choosing to fly is too often a bad habit.

Perhaps the ideal answer is to have the ultra high speed inter city train routes and also upgrade the present lines to rapid transit with multiple stops.
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I remember one crazily short flight I was on - something like Manchester to London in the morning. The mad attempt to serve a cooked breakfast before stowing the trolley for landing was impossible, despite it being pretty empty. Can't now remember why on earth I was on it!
 
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I remember one crazily short flight I was on - something like Manchester to London in the morning. The mad attempt to serve a cooked breakfast before stowing the trolley for landing was impossible, despite it being pretty empty. Can't now remember why on earth I was on it!
I remember when I used to fly on Air France Caravelles from Heathrow to Orly they did similar, but for lunch. The stewardesses were quite literally pushing the trolley uphill in the late climb stages to get everyone served, then downhill to clear the remnants, such was the short London - Paris flight time

Completely bonkers, but of course there was no channel tunnel then and the ferries were more primitive than now. I also used to fly Heathrow to Glasgow on my way to Dundee, train for the latter stage of course. This was long before HS125s so train all the way was too slow.
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Though I understand the relevance of point you make, my preference is for circa 300 mph high speed since it could enable compulsory removal of most internal airline routes. That in turn would greatly reduce both additional runway needs and aircraft noise nuisance.
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This is true! why only last week there was a report of a sighting on what was believed to be an "Airliner" flying South near Hull and heading for "Biggles Field" (Sorry Humberside Airport)
This sort of thing could frighten Horses, shouldn't there be public warning when it happens?:eek:
 

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The papers are interesting, the Telegraph hadly mentions the no deal advice, the Express goes quite frantic with nonsense like this
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UK ready to CALL EU'S BLUFF: 11 ways Britain already prepared for NO-DEAL Brexit
BRITAIN will be fully prepared for Brexit even in the case of a no-deal exit, Dominic Raab said today, as 24 technical papers outlining preparations and scenarios if the UK quits the EU without a deal next March were released."

What need has the EU to Bluff?

And the readers comments (I wonder if they are truly from readers) cry Project Fear! Betrayal! Quislings and traitors!"

The Daily Mail puts Brexit half way down the Front page rather than it dominating it with this
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May's fury as Chancellor warns no-deal Brexit could wipe TEN PER CENT off UK's national income - just hours after Dominic Raab dismissed 'wild' scare stories and said it would not impact consumers
  • Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab suggested no-deal would not be 'doomsday'
  • Hours later Philip Hammond publishes letter to Nicky Morgan over Brexit fears
  • In letter he highlighted disputed analysis suggesting no-deal would cost £80bn
  • Analysis will infuriate Eurosceptics who reject PM's Chequers compromise deal
 

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You want a deal? I have one, it is called the EU...
 

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aircraft noise nuisance
One of the reasons for increasingly hating our previous location was aircraft noise. FlightRadar24 confirmed most of it to be commercial airliners, some of which were pretty darned noisy. But the worst was the police helicopter hovering for what seemed like hours (though surely was far less time), especially in the early hours. And the fact that all this air traffic noise overlaid itself on other aircraft noise.

Now we do sometimes get a military aircraft, a helicopter checking electricity wires, the air ambulance, and even on very odd occasions notice a passing airliner, rarely is there more than one at a time. They are distinct, understandable and, to a great extent, easily ignorable.
 
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I mentioned once before in a post here that perhaps all 'Brexidiots' are not racists but one can be sure that all racists voted for 'Brexit'.

This infographic directed towards those who are of the colour-prejudiced variety of racism is quite telling in its accuracy:

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I mentioned once before in a post here that perhaps all 'Brexidiots' are not racists but one can be sure that all racists voted for 'Brexit'.

This infographic directed towards those who are of the colour-prejudiced variety of racism is quite telling in its accuracy:

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Tom
In another place, a forum with a huge number of members (many tens of thousands), focussed on the UK but with a considerable number from around the globe, colour has been quite interesting.

Skin colour is rarely discussed at all, but there is a steady drip drip of photos - whether of the "this is me" sort or "what is this skin problem?". Either way, we get to identify their skin colour.

Time and again, I realised that I had never considered that member's colour at all. Occasionally, something made me assume one colour or another, and I have often been totally wrong.
 

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In another place, a forum with a huge number of members (many tens of thousands), focussed on the UK but with a considerable number from around the globe, colour has been quite interesting.

Skin colour is rarely discussed at all, but there is a steady drip drip of photos - whether of the "this is me" sort or "what is this skin problem?". Either way, we get to identify their skin colour.

Time and again, I realised that I had never considered that member's colour at all. Occasionally, something made me assume one colour or another, and I have often been totally wrong.
On that forum, as here, members have avatars. The default avatars are spread across the spectrum - so I actually end up thinking of member A as being purple, member B as yellow (and I mean bright yellow not "Chinese"), etc. Real appearance is way behind that in terms of that member's characteristics.
 

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Time and again, I realised that I had never considered that member's colour at all. Occasionally, something made me assume one colour or another, and I have often been totally wrong.
Now that we are all minorities in London, even the white British born down to 46%, racial and colour discrimination have almost vanished. Those with racist inclinations have moved away long ago, thank goodness.

One thing I really dislike is the outward flow of previous immigrants who have now been made to feel unwelcome by government pronouncements on immigration. It's one of the evils of Brexit and very discriminatory in nature, inferring that immigrants are intrinsically undesirable.
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nowhere as clear as in the right wing press: a Brit living in the EU is called an ex-pat, an EU citizen living in the UK is called a migrant.
I did like OT's eggs infographic though.
 

oldtom

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On that forum, as here, members have avatars. The default avatars are spread across the spectrum - so I actually end up thinking of member A as being purple, member B as yellow (and I mean bright yellow not "Chinese"), etc. Real appearance is way behind that in terms of that member's characteristics.
I'm the same; I think we all tend to form pre-conceived notions of others - I always imagine that 'Tillson' for example, looks exactly like Robert Falcon Scott!

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