What happened to this Brexit of yours?
Did it get lost somewhere?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Did it get lost somewhere?
The problem will result in big trouble as this generation encounter conditions of work considered normal when you and I went out to work for the first time flecc.
And that is making the big assumption there is work available, imagine their distress once the same conditions we had for the out of work are brought in.
There will be hell to pay.
Perhaps a government then will then repeat the former answer, National Service to soak up a few million of the unemployed.
That would be an even bigger shock, not being able to use their smartphones while square bashing!
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Maybe life is too easy and too lucrative on benefits? Why work 35 to 40 hours a week to earn the differential between £350 (minus tax, NI & other stoppages) and benefits? It makes no sense to do so. I’m not blaming you, that’s not a bad starting wage & it’s a job where a person could learn something useful. Well done for trying to give someone an opportunity.
The benefits culture is a huge burden and it’s about time it was tackled properly. Initially it might cause a bit of unrest, but that can be calmed with water cannon, baton rounds, clubs, whips, dogs & horses.
Why would we need driving permits all of a sudden? Non- EU residents already drive in the EU without a permit and EU residents drive in Non-EU countries without one. What’s the problem?
I think many of the “leaving problems” don’t actually exist. They are manufactured.
The UK has not ratified the 1968 Vienna Convention on Road Traffic and when we do, IDPs will be required.
3. International driving permits
By ratifying the Convention, the UK will be able to issue 1968-format IDPs in accordance with the Convention. These are physical documents which accompany your UK driving licence and ensure the recognition of your entitlement to drive in other states party to the 1968 Convention. Ratification will allow us to issue IDPs allowing UK motorists to drive in all EU member states whatever the outcome of negotiations with the EU.
Some countries, such as the Republic of Ireland and Spain, are party to the earlier 1949 Geneva Convention and not the 1968 Convention. The UK is already party to the 1949 Convention and 1949-format IDPs will remain valid for driving in these countries.
By ratifying the Convention, the UK will therefore ensure that drivers can continue to travel as they do now in EU member states post-Exit.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/road-haulage-and-driving-in-the-eu-post-brexit/ratifying-the-1968-vienna-convention
Months ago, remainers lacked imagination, courage and insight so they chased it away out of fear.
Think you, ll find in about my first post I said we might have voted to leave but we never would. That's about the level of it now.
Amazingly, I now suspect there is more support to leave than at any time. Many people are beginning to see the EU for what it is. A corrupt wasteful spiteful organisation with little true democracy, but hey if you want to be ruled by such who am I to question it. So be it.
It won't make a jot of difference for most of us, either way. I, ll still be renting out yachts, going diving, sailing and skiing. Life is good.. So feck it. We, ll stay under jurisdiction of none elected faceless corrupt bureaucrats like alcoholic Junkers...for ever.
You and Tom will always have some Daily Mail inspired injustice to rant about, JC will never know what he, s doing, Pedelecs will carry on being bought, folk will carry on stabbing each other in London...Thats life. Be grateful we aren't Russian. Enjoy it OG.
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Is this the goodness flowing you promised?
There will trouble in the streets!
And for what?
So the idle rich keep their offshore assets?
No thanks, the public should be asking what's in this for me?
And the answer is chaos
There will trouble in the streets!
And for what?
So the idle rich keep their offshore assets?
No thanks, the public should be asking what's in this for me?
And the answer is chaos
Sent from my Moto G (5) using TapatalkMaybe life is too easy and too lucrative on benefits? Why work 35 to 40 hours a week to earn the differential between £350 (minus tax, NI & other stoppages) and benefits? It makes no sense to do so. I’m not blaming you, that’s not a bad starting wage & it’s a job where a person could learn something useful. Well done for trying to give someone an opportunity.
The benefits culture is a huge burden and it’s about time it was tackled properly. Initially it might cause a bit of unrest, but that can be calmed with water cannon, baton rounds, clubs, whips, dogs & horses.
What the heck are you on about? The corruption in this country was so bad the leave campaign itself broke the law and got fined for it, and the main force driving brexit was to protect illegal tax Dodgers, meanwhile you come out with the same drivel about the EU being corrupt.
Isn't it time to gave up flogging that dead horse?
The corruption here is what matters now.
No matter what your personal grudges are brexit is a bloody stupid gamble
And it will leave us in the hands of either the worst fascists, or a bunch of amateur would be socialists who are little better
And for what?
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This has nothing to do with goodness flowing. This is all about the benefits of culture which has developed over the decades in this country. A culture illustrated by the bicycle manufacturer being unable to attract employees by offering a reasonable wage and a training opportunity. This culture needs bringing to an end, even if that entails extreme and unpleasant measures. It’s dirty work that needs doing.
And what are you going to put in its place?
Don't forget some of us worked in the sort of society you dream of, and the country went bankrupt despite of that.
If we automate production we will still be left with a bigger mass of unemployed than ever, are you going to kill them off?
Just so people like yourself in good jobs keep a few extra quid in your pockets?
Don't forget some of us worked in the sort of society you dream of, and the country went bankrupt despite of that.
If we automate production we will still be left with a bigger mass of unemployed than ever, are you going to kill them off?
Just so people like yourself in good jobs keep a few extra quid in your pockets?
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The example given by Wisper Bikes is unacceptable. Here is a company offering a decent job and nobody wants it. How can that be right? It’s fair to assume that this is replicated up down the country. A benefits culture which promotes this type of behaviour is totally on acceptable and needs bringing to an abrupt end.
We are also overpopulating, and yet again it’s those least able to support a family that are having the most children. Fat, gum chewing, McDonalds devouring monstrosities are squeezing out future claimants in maternity wards all over the country. It’s an exponentially growing burden which the hard working mugs on PAYE are funding. Rest assured that the vocal celebrity socialist campaigners and supportive media pundits have their money squirrelled away and untouchable.
Maybe it would help if maternity wards for these grotesque benefit consuming “whale mothers” consisted of a gazebo in the corner of the Hospital car park. Staffed by a dirty finger nailed mid-wife call Derek wielding a 2KW Dyson in one hand and a set of BBQ tongues in the other. What do you think?
Sounds like Hull to me, sorry hell. Oh hang on a minute.
Oh and 2kw Dyson is out lawed under our philanthropic EU... Derek will have to make do with bellows.
hmm, you're jumping to a few wild conclusions there. Most of the people I know who in the past would have jumped at the chance of working in the bike industry are now working at Lidl because it pays more for an easier life. Its not benefits that are sucking the workforce its competition. If you can't get staff, that's not caused by over population, its caused by underpopulation.
It's only 40%...Thats OK they are in EU and can move to Northern Europe to be exploited. They can all get jobs at Lidl... or even come to UK and sign on.
Surely the solution is not free movement of people but getting folk like Wisper to move to Southern Europe... In fact a revelation for EU, instead of Junkers attracting every major company to register in Luxembourg why not give companies incentives to invest in low employment regions. The EU pretends to do so but is actually more interested in offering low tax (in some cases no tax) to locate in already affluent regions.
Problem solved. Just need rid of EU..
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Are you seriously suggesting that there is zero unemployment in that area? That the Job Centre is a desolate wilderness and this is caused by a birth and immigration rate which is too low? I don’t think you believe that for one minute. So why say it?
The job offered by Wisper would make a benefit sponger about £50 a week better off if under 25 or about £30 for one over 25. Who’s going to work 40 hours for £30 to £50 a week? This isn’t Wisper’s fault, it’s too easy to stay on benefits when a job is available, and that is the governments fault aided by fake socialist campaigners quoting the sort of garbage which appears in your post.
If one simply bans farm machinery, re invests in sickles, reintroduce national service and the good old Lee Enfield 303,. Removes those missile destroyers with their crews of 60 , and replace them with those pretty cruisers with complements of 2000, we can have full employment, rampant poverty, starvation levels, but we will have full employment...
that's not answering the question. It's like a politicians distraction tactic
So you think the shortages in industries like ours, and nurses, and engineers and builders etc etc, is solved by walking into the Job Centre? I think you might need to try employing some people at the moment, and you'll realise that the problem is much deeper and not solved by giving the people who need jobs, the jobs that are available. In many many many cases they aren't suitable for a host of reasons I'm sure you don't need me to go into.