Brexit, for once some facts.

[Kudoscycles]

Whitehall sources said they believed free movement of goods was “100% the direction of travel” as the prime minister’s focus shifts to the next battle over Britain’s future relationship with the EU after next week’s Brussels summit.

Downing Street remained tight-lipped, reiterating that the UK would be leaving the single market in its entirety. However, cabinet sources suggested the issue could be on the agenda at the Brexit “war cabinet” awayday at Chequers in early July.

And the point of leaving is ???????
KudosDave

 

[Kudoscycles]

Well his good friend Vladimir Putin thinks it's a jolly good idea!
Vlad Looks on the bright side, when Daimler, BMW and co recover from their little surprise and concentrate on selling cars to the local American Market, that will spell the death knell for the local industry.
His Glove puppet with the funny comb over will have done him proud!

I have long wondered when China wouldn't start nationalising all the foreign companies that have planted themselves over there , for the cheap labour, resources and lower environmental standards and cut out the profits to the middle man.
I wouldn't be surprised at them doing so if pushed one of these days, and they could cripple the USA at a stroke.

Any company with China at the start of the title is wholly owned by the Chinese government.....that is already a lot of businesses.
KudosDave

 

[oldgroaner]

Any company with China at the start of the title is wholly owned by the Chinese government.....that is already a lot of businesses.
KudosDave

There are still many to absorb should they choose to!

 

[oldgroaner]

Whitehall sources said they believed free movement of goods was “100% the direction of travel” as the prime minister’s focus shifts to the next battle over Britain’s future relationship with the EU after next week’s Brussels summit.

Downing Street remained tight-lipped, reiterating that the UK would be leaving the single market in its entirety. However, cabinet sources suggested the issue could be on the agenda at the Brexit “war cabinet” awayday at Chequers in early July.

And the point of leaving is ???????
KudosDave

Perhaps a fudge like the one allowing free movement of people already approved will do?
That Red line was easy to erase.
All that is required is to find a turn of phrase to con the Berxit voters with after all.
Magicians make things disappear on stage all the time that are still there...
How hard can it be?

And the point of leaving is?
Easy peasy
Offshore Bank accounts.

 

[flecc]

Any company with China at the start of the title is wholly owned by the Chinese government.....

Not ours though :

Link 1

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[Woosh]

It is very difficult to compete with economies of scale. It happened recently with the pc business and now with the ebikes. When the major retailers start selling the product, it is time for the cottage industries to shut up shop or become bespoke boutiques . I dont think its the fault of tarrifs , just of market maturity .
It does however not imply additional costs to the consumer.

this time, it's not economies of scale. After the EU imposed ADD on normal Chinese bikes, Chinese companies created factories in Cambodia for example to avoid duty. That was 25 years ago.
Taiwan is a small country, its production capacity is already fully used. You are looking at creating roughly the capacity for about one million to 2 millions e-bikes a year, it will take time to do, not counting the risk of further competition down the line when some Chinese e-bike companies find their way to Laos, Cambodia or Burma within a couple of years.

 

[anotherkiwi]

https://electrek.co/2018/06/21/xiaomis-new-electric-bicycle-himo/

225€ (£197), I'm in for a couple! Dumping? What dumping?

 

[Woosh]

after 20-July, they may remove the cranks and say it's a toy, not an e-bike!

 

[anotherkiwi]

after 20-July, they may remove the cranks and say it's a toy, not an e-bike!

You should steal inspire yourself from that design. Front disk brake, Big Apple tyres, a Sanyo 20700 celled 12 Ah 3P10S battery and priced accordingly.

 

[Woosh]

I may just do that. I am building a little team at the moment. Just been talking to a local firm doing Solidworks design this afternoon.

 

[Woosh]

Picked this article today from the Guardian:

"Brexit Britain is a precarious business model coupled with throwback fantasies about buccaneering our way around the Commonwealth. It makes us easy prey for the likes of Airbus, which although profitable in this country has been exploring its options in Korea and elsewhere for a long time. Why would a European plane-maker cut jobs in France or Germany when it needs EU support against Donald Trump and Boeing? Far easier to cut back in Britain, with its cabinet at war, its economy drifting away from the European mainland, and its jar of corporate sweeties already heavily raided. In lots of other industries, lots of other companies will soon be arriving at the same conclusion."

 

[oyster]

1. 
   
   That's not good enough! This thread is all about facts after all.
   
   Tom
   

Or German?

spancel in British
(ˈspænsəl )

noun
1.
a length of rope for hobbling an animal, esp a horse or cow
verb -cels, -celling, -celled or US -cels, -celing or -celed
2. (transitive)
to hobble (an animal) with a loose rope
Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers
Word origin of 'spancel'
C17: from Low German spansel, from spannen to stretch; see span2

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spancel

 

[oyster]

I don't know what Trump's motivation is anymore.

That seems to be entirely the wrong way of looking at his actions. So many of them are not sensible, logical, appropriate, ways of getting his apparent aims implemented.

 

[Woosh]

That seems to be entirely the wrong way of looking at his actions. So many of them are not sensible, logical, appropriate, ways of getting his apparent aims implemented.

his methods are erratic, that's why I compared him to Luke Rheinhart in 'The Dice Man'. For example, he needs Congress to give him $25 billions for his wall, so he did something outrageous with the immigrant mums and their kiddies. His threatening to vaporise North Korea is OTT but still, you could say the end justifies the means. But a trade war with all the neighbours and old allies? it only enrich Wall Street while losing jobs in USA's heartland.

 

[oldgroaner]

Tommie gloated over this
"Brexit planning sees Shannon firm Eirtech expand in Belfast

An Irish company will set up a Belfast base and create 124 jobs to "future-proof" the UK part of its business against a hard Brexit.

Eirtech Aviation Services is a manufacturing and aircraft repair firm headquartered in Shannon, County Clare."

Ah well things don't always work out well do they Tommie?
Now this

"
Brexit: Downing Street downplays fears of Airbus quitting UK over no-deal EU withdrawal
Factory workers at the company’s UK plants have raised ‘grave concerns’ over the lack of progress in negotiations


"AIRBUS ,a EUROPA company is NORTHERN IRELANDS largest industrial employer, with 5,400 workers at five sites in the Greater Belfast area.

Oh Dear!

 

[oldgroaner]

his methods are erratic, that's why I compared him to Luke Rheinhart in 'The Dice Man'. For example, he needs Congress to give him $25 billions for his wall, so he did something outrageous with the immigrant mums and their kiddies. His threatening to vaporise North Korea is OTT but still, you could say the end justifies the means. But a trade war with all the neighbours and old allies? it only enrich Wall Street while losing jobs in USA's heartland.

Frankly he needs checking for some sort of mental problem before he does something really dangerous.

 

[oyster]

the end justifies the means

Surely that only works if the end is achieved, or at least seems achievable? Guardian today pointed out that lack of any movement whatsoever on getting rid of nuclear weapons by NK.

 

[Woosh]

Surely that only works if the end is achieved, or at least seems achievable? Guardian today pointed out that lack of any movement whatsoever on getting rid of nuclear weapons by NK.

it's early days, give them a bit of time and space.

 

[oldgroaner]

it's early days, give them a bit of time and space.

And a generation or two
This morning from the Guardian
"
Trump flips on North Korea, declaring country still an 'extraordinary threat'
President extended the ‘national emergency’ for one year in an executive order, re-authorizing economic restrictions"

Does that constitute a vote of confidence?

 

[oldgroaner]

From the Telegraph
"
New crackdownEvicting criminals' families from council homes will help cut offending, says minister..

I wonder how this genius imagines this will work?
Persecute the innocent as well as the guilty?

Ye gods, if you throw a family out on the Street, how are they going to react? crime will be the only way they can survive.

But then right wing politicians are trying these techniques in other countries, forgetting that they simply create a different problem, not solve anything.