Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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Back on track and brexit related... Newspapers on Saturday carried pictures of a new car lorry ferry,the largest for Ireland, and capable of 600 lorries very second day to France coming on stream. This will of course bypass Liverpool and Holyhead and go direct to Cherbourg. In addition a another new ferry is scheduled to start Dublin to France mid summer.
The simple fact is that commerce is not prepared to wait for the faffing about of the UK political class. How long will it be before Ryanair acts?
This news was also covered on a BBC Radio 4 program a week or so ago, with the same reasoning.
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from the BBC:
Brexit: Government insists UK will leave customs union.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43860453

TM is indeed preparing for another U-turn.
Any customs arrangement that is outside the SM is going to be on manufactured goods and energy, leaving agriculture and fisheries to countries that accept CAP and CFP and the ECJ.
The farmers and fishers are going to be very upset when they find out the details in what our government has in mind. They will face barriers in selling their produce to the EU27 and strong competition from lower cost producers like SA, Brasil, Mexico, USA, Australia, NZ etc.
 
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Any customs arrangement that is outside the SM is going to be on manufactured goods and energy
The other day I pointed out that energy, at least in the form of an electrical interconnect, will not be subject to any tariff. That was in the context of the Pembrokeshire-Ireland cable.
 
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back on topic, Thursday will see how the forces are lined up in the HoC. There will be an unwhipped vote on a customs union.
 
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How strange that now they never said any of those things?
And the Brexit Voters fail to remember and have been brainwashed completely by these same liars, the government and the media
 

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they all know that Liam Fox is totally unlikely to deliver better than a CU or SM membership.
their only weapon is TM whom they hold as hostage. Her problem is her place in history as the PM that delivers brexit.
Eventually, she'll tell them enough is enough and call their bluff.
 
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but women in authority aren't noted for changing their minds, no matter how wrong they've become.
they have a month to sort out the CU option. As far as I can guess, her cabinet has pretty much agreed that we need some customs arrangement to keep NI in the UK. Whatever they call that arrangement, soon enough the rest of the country will have to come to the same conclusion: we want to keep the advantages of the SM and there is a price for it.
 
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I could. You wouldn't expect a senior politician to say "mongoloid", "spastic" or any of many other disease-based illnesses in that way. That way of speaking was rightly seen as less than wholly acceptable language. Why does he think that "cretin" (and related words) is acceptable? I certainly do not.
 
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I could. You wouldn't expect a senior politician to say "mongoloid", "spastic" or any of many other disease-based illnesses in that way. That way of speaking was rightly seen as less than wholly acceptable language. Why does he think that "cretin" (and related words) is acceptable? I certainly do not.
I suspect he isn't aware of the true meaning of the word, or more likely was trying to speak "common" to endear himself to the plebs

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I suspect he isn't aware of the true meaning of the word, or more likely was trying to speak "common" to endear himself to the plebs

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cretinous being an adjective can be fudged by 'not in the right context' at a later date when JRM does a u-turn himself whereas calling TM 'cretin' would be reflected straight back to him.
The problem I have with the hard brexiters is their inevitable u-turns on their vision sooner or later.
 

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Some of you may wonder what is happening with'Brexit'. Well, it seems there has been no progress recently and the UK is just sitting in the condemned cell waiting for the executioner and his team to enter the cell and escort the UK to the cell next door, the one with a rope and a trapdoor.

The tory government and their media friends have been busy though; they are playing on the nation's weakness by endlessly promoting nonsense stories about royal babies and forthcoming marriages, indeed a whole range of 'sidebar' stories also have been elevated to the front pages, occupying much time too on the TV propaganda channels.

Meanwhile, the people of arguably the most powerful nation on Earth, the country with which many of the British fascist 'Brexit' proponents have proposed closer ties are demonstrating openly about the direction in which they would like Trump to move more speedily.

https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/first-pictures-of-the-neo-nazis-lighting-rally-in-georgia-are-emerging-ZGS72L_zGUW-Jju2Tlb7AA/

'Brexit' and its ramifications are now taking on the makings of a major horror movie, replete with a host of monsters that Ironman and Co. might be incapable of defeating.

Tom
 

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The Telegraph do have a great Cartoonist
Tommie and i could have great fun on this as we enter our second childhoods.. One would need to be very careful on the selection of colours and the patterns on the plastics... The flags and emblems act could be working overtime, the kerfuffle about language parity would be just a storm in a tea cup beside this.
 

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