And then there's me...
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
Groucho Marx
Brexit, for once some facts.
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
Groucho Marx
And if they don't suite us we will have no option but to accept them too or lose trade.
Neat
Utter nonsense
They should have been taught to be patriotic to the EU, shouldn't they?
Amazing that without being racist we created the Biggest Empire in Human History, caused mayhem and havoc in India , China, Africa, and everywhere else we went, and still are waging wars of aggression in the middle east, and supplying weapons to dodgy regimes waging racist wars.
Why are we leaving the EU if we don't feel a sense of National Superiority?
What is that BUT racist?
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this system is used by EFTA countries.obviously, until we join EFTA, and then we have to deal with their Court
if one particular directive does not suit us, we don't have to import it. Disputes between members are arbitrated by EFTA court. Their judgement is advisory.
I did tell you that EFTA would suit us.
So when Ryanair have an argument over landing rights in the UK,they will take the matter to a UK court?
KudosDave
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Now you see why Ryanair wants us to remain in the EU.
If you are a UK based airline, you are not worried.
yes. That's what would happen if we join EFTA.
Now you see why Ryanair wants us to remain in the EU.
If you are a UK based airline, you are not worried.
But what happens if we dont join EFTA.
Ok,we dont join EFTA, you are a UK based airline who is arguing over landing rights in say Germany....very real at the moment with the collapse of Air Berlin?
Who adjudicates on that one?
KudosDave
... and yet a British Airline is setting up an Austrian one, because they aren't worried at all. They are just doing it for fun, because they are making so much money they like wasting it. Not worried at all.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/14/uks-easyjet-sets-up-new-airline-in-austria-to-protect-flights-post-brexit.html
Today,David Davis said....about the ECJ.
And any new dispute resolution mechanism created to adjudicate on post-Brexit rows between the UK and EU could be required to take account of, or even be bound by, the rulings of the Luxembourg-based court.
And any new dispute resolution mechanism created to adjudicate on post-Brexit rows between the UK and EU could be required to take account of, or even be bound by, the rulings of the Luxembourg-based court.
Today,Theresa May said .....about the ECJ
What is absolutely clear, when we leave the European Union we will be leaving the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice,” she said during a visit to Guildford in Surrey. “What we will be able to do is to make our own laws.
So pleased we are all in agreement,hehe....
KudosDave
What is absolutely clear, when we leave the European Union we will be leaving the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice,” she said during a visit to Guildford in Surrey. “What we will be able to do is to make our own laws.
So pleased we are all in agreement,hehe....
KudosDave
Its obvious why Easy jet are doing it because they dont trust Theresa May to have set up a new 'open skies' agreement because of her intransigence over the ECJ. If they set up an Austrian business they can use the open skies agreement under the ECJ to fly anywhere in Europe from European bases,similar of course to Ryanair. What happens with the UK can only be considered later.
KudosDave
a German court. If you are still not happy with the outcome, you escalate to the ECJ.
And you wonder why you lost. How high and mighty you think yourself to be! To all the honest decent people who voted how they did for their own good reasons - and you treat them like this. Shame on you. Seriously. Shame on you. Shame on you for your utterly disgusting attitude. Shame on you for being so utterly disrespectful. Shame on you for calling the majority of voting Brits feckless and lazy. How dare you treat so many hard working decent people with such disdain. You have nothing but my contempt.
But Woosh, said
UK airlines aren't worried, apparently.
I'm confused.
UK airline is clearly worried, so sets up new Airline... its actually happening.
or should we listen to Woosh??
Perhaps Woosh should email EasyJet and tell them not to worry?
There's one point on the ECJ where Theresa May is right and the EU are definitely in the wrong.
The EU are insisting on their citizens in the UK being subject to the ECJ, but that is nonsense.
When we travel to any country we are subject to their laws and courts. Since the EU citizens are voluntarily here, they must be subject to our UK courts while here. That is long standing international understanding, and anyone coming here accepts that by their voluntary entry.
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The EU are insisting on their citizens in the UK being subject to the ECJ, but that is nonsense.
When we travel to any country we are subject to their laws and courts. Since the EU citizens are voluntarily here, they must be subject to our UK courts while here. That is long standing international understanding, and anyone coming here accepts that by their voluntary entry.
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if the dispute is about German landing slots then the local court has competence. I can't see any problem with that.So two foreign courts instead of just one using our UK judges.
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The ECJ deals with the interpretation of EU laws. Even if you petition the ECJ, your chance of being heard is very small. They pick and choose which cases they want to hear.