You asked a question.... so I gave you examples. people have lost their jobs and we're all poorer.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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how? if you have to compete against a local manufacturer then I get it but as you said, you've got exclusives on most of what you sell, the duty matters not.
Don't forget, 80% of current duty collected from outside the EU are remitted to the EU. UK only gets to keep 20%.
After brexit, we get to keep duty on imported goods from the EU, that should make up the cheque for the NHS.
roughly 2% on regular consumption. It's not a big problem. Remainers should avoid anything to do with making gloomy economic predictions because you and I don't yet know what brexit is other than A50.
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Nestlé set to cut 300 UK jobs and move production of Blue Riband bars to Poland
GMB and Unite unions slammed the company for the move
Nestlé announced proposals to move production of the iconic Blue Riband chocolate bar from the UK to Poland resulting in around 300 job losses, following increasing import costs and uncertainty over how the Government will handle Brexit.
How many more examples would you like?
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Drinks giant Diageo has been criticised for moving its vodka production out of Scotland because of Brexit.
The company, which manufactures Smirnoff and Circo vodka, is reportedly shifting its production to Italy and US, which will lead to the loss of 105 roles at its plants in Fife and Glasgow."
It is happening.
Freedom from what? are you serious? any legislation passed in future will favour the state and businesses over yours every time.
Please try to face reality not live in a dream.
you should take unemployment statistics - the trend is down, not up.
Companies give all sort of reasons, they balance out and encapsulated in the overall statistics, a much more reliable indicator than examples.
Is that OG's real name 'OxygenJames'?.......or have you got yourself so mixed up to the extent that you can't be sure whose posts you are arguing against?
I would say you have completely lost the plot except I don't think you ever had the plot! Most of your venom against foreigners, the EU, the Civil Service, (for god's sake!) I'll guess has been drawn from your reading of the mainstream tabloid press......probably the ones controlled by Murdoch.
All you seem to have as an argument is total ignorance of what the EU is about, how it is managed and some weird notion that civil servants need to be reined in, if I understand your ramblings correctly. All that, punctuated by a hatred of foreigners, certainly tells me that you are nowhere near the top of anyone's shortlist for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Tom
I'm sorry but the Employment statistics we are given by the ONS present a picture distorted by the fact that many jobs are either temporary, insecure, Zero Hours or not worth having. they do however also admit this
"Latest estimates show that average weekly earnings for employees in Great Britain in real terms (that is, adjusted for price inflation) fell by 0.7% including bonuses, and fell by 0.5% excluding bonuses, compared with a year earlier."
The trend in value of actually having work falls all the time as cost of living continues to rise.
Consequently the Tax return from people in work will also reduce, making the the economic situation even worse.
Pay them less= less income tax, and less spending= less VAT return
Result downward spiral
Sorry, not buying false optimism on the issue
the number of jobseekers reflect the level of support for brexit.
Those (and their families) are the ones most motivated to seek change.
The tory government has designs on privatising every function of our NHS in order to make profit for the few.
The same tory government has repeatedly declared that the UK is the strongest ally of the USA and that there is a special relationship between us.
The tory government is determined to take the UK out of the EU against the wishes of almost half the nation, probably many more who were prevented from voting in the advisory referendum.
The tory government is pandering to and doing the bidding of its rich backers, the monarchy and aristocracy, the bankers and big business moguls.
Austerity will continue long into the future for the common man and woman in this class war against the 'have-nots'.
This tory government ignores expert advice and ignores the needs and aspirations of the British people.
The UK is now the laughing stock of the world and we haven't even left the EU yet!
Tom
The same tory government has repeatedly declared that the UK is the strongest ally of the USA and that there is a special relationship between us.
The tory government is determined to take the UK out of the EU against the wishes of almost half the nation, probably many more who were prevented from voting in the advisory referendum.
The tory government is pandering to and doing the bidding of its rich backers, the monarchy and aristocracy, the bankers and big business moguls.
Austerity will continue long into the future for the common man and woman in this class war against the 'have-nots'.
This tory government ignores expert advice and ignores the needs and aspirations of the British people.
The UK is now the laughing stock of the world and we haven't even left the EU yet!
Tom
But it's pity the employment statistics aren't in actual hours employed.
Swapping a very large number of regular hours paid jobs for a slightly larger number of zero hours contracts and part time jobs is not a gain.
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The duty from China into the UK,you pay the same on your imported e-bikes...I assume this duty will be deleted once we leave the EU...that is unless Theresa May decides to retain it.
The highest duty rate I pay is 22% on alloy road wheels,most averages about 4%,its not a lot,but nice to be rid of it.
If we were on WTO duties or agreed EU-UK duties then products which I have a monopoly on would not be affected,these are only 2.9% mostly...the big problem would be products that could be bought off local suppliers that my customers currently find me attractive.
As you say Hammond may find it attractive to collect the duty on all EU imports,a stealth tax which will mainly affect cars/luxury goods.
Thats why I say that I dont think I will be badly affected by Brexit,but if the country suffers we all suffer,hence my concern.
KudosDave
At the moment, we hand over 80% of thee duty we collect from importers to the EU. If we make mistakes (like with Chinese bags), the EU can fine us for their missing earnings.
the attraction of not remaining is we get to keep the duty, the rate will probably remain at 6% for e-bikes and we don't get fined for making mistakes.
We shall see. I doubt very much any of the German car manf want to have a 6% loading on their cars. And if they do? We can buy stuff some elsewhere - like Japan - like S. Korea.
Same with French wine - personally I think Chilean is as nice. And like I said - we already had a currency drop of 10% - so we're 4% up anyway.
So negative! For a trade dealer - so so negative. And no we're not ALL poorer. There will be winners and losers. Right now with your attitude I'd say you're going to be one of the latter.
Funny this thread started with Brexit - the facts - or something like that. At the time the 'facts' were that if we voted leave - as soon as we voted leave there would be an emergency budget - the IMF said the economy would tank - Obama said his piece - Cameron threatened WW3 - the CBI did their bit - 'experts' on the TV every night saying how crazy it would be - fear and doom all around.
Now here we are a year later - the sky has not fallen in - and yet we're being told bla bla bla bla bla and its all going to be a disaster.
And you wonder why we don't believe you.
Now here we are a year later - the sky has not fallen in - and yet we're being told bla bla bla bla bla and its all going to be a disaster.
And you wonder why we don't believe you.
So ignorant.... you might not realise it, but you are poorer. unless of course you don't buy anything, or haven't realised you're getting less for the money you're paying.
Working in the trade allows me to see the impact first hand, on just our little bit of this specific industry, but its happening across everything and its creeping in as the bigger brands and companies run out of their per-purchased currency.
I'm not a negative person, I'm very optimistic and I'd love to be wrong about this, but people like you who are pro-brexit haven't given me anything to be positive about, literally everything you think think is a benefit is either a lie, or simply not going to happy.
If anyone could give me something to be positive about Brexit, I'd be more than happy to accept it. More than happy.
That's because if you remember... it was promised that A50 would be triggered immediately. That didn't happen, and things do take a while to play out. Only someone with their head in the sand would say that because it didn't happen immediately, we're all going to be ok.
Sorry Old groaner - I just now realised I got you and Tom mixed up. You are an old moaner its true (obviously and you admit as much) - but darn that guy Tom is Mr unhappy-miserable-caustic-darknes itself. Apologies if I was a bit harsh with you.
Tom. Cheer up. Thank god Thatcher saved us from your workers paradise.