Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Those who can participate, those who can't criticise , wander off topic and attempt to sabotage the discussion, flecc, perhaps because they have nothing better to do?
Simply time wasters with nothing to contribute of any value, intent on mischief.

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[Zlatan]

Perhaps because you are attempting to spoil the fun!
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Calling posters schizophrenic is forum's idea of fun ???
And as an outsider certainly doesn't make me want to rush out and buy a bike.
And by your argument perhaps we could start a porn thread..posters wives or something. I,d guess that would attract quite a bit of traffic.
And thread would be just as long,probably longer and been far more productive, had it had a semblance of control over it.

 

[oldtom]

Simply time wasters with nothing to contribute of any value, intent on mischief.

Troll is the word for such a person, I understand.

Tom

 

[flecc]

Calling posters schizophrenic is forum's idea of fun ???
And as an outsider certainly doesn't make me want to rush out and buy a bike.
And by your argument perhaps we could start a porn thread..posters wives or something. I,d guess that would attract quite a bit of traffic.
And thread would be just as long,probably longer and been far more productive, had it had a semblance of control over it.

Didn't you see the Wink smiley?
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[Zlatan]

Oh, yes that makes it really funny..
Like smiling after telling a racist joke.

 

[tillson]

It seems like the 'Brexidiots' are losing their cool and looking for a scapegoat because their vision of a fascist Shangri-La is disappearing as economic sense begins to percolate through the tiny brains of many of the early adopters.

Entrenched in a hopeless position, those in this forum who give sustenance to the monsters of the extremist parties fail to remember the sage message, 'When you are in a hole of your own making and you want to escape, stop digging!'

Every single person who has ever cast a vote for UKIP and everyone who voted in the referendum to exit the EU holds responsibility for giving unwarranted credence to the murderous fascists, racists and assorted extremist, anarchist groupings of the UK. It is both right and proper that those of sane mind should challenge the intellectual simpletons who leapt to the cause of fascism behind the lunatic extremists, so it is an undignified spectacle to see those advocates and supporters of evil now seeking the intercession of forum moderators.

There has been no arm-twisting in order to force anyone to remain in a discussion about destroying European unity and paving the way for another major war, so to the cry-babies who don't like to be referred to as the evil-mongering fascists that they clearly are, I say, 'If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.'

Tom

Tom, I am pleased that you posted this.

I can take the rough and tumble of forum life. I dish out enough, so I expect to get it back and that is ok.

However, you and I both know that you hold a key which will unlock the truth about what derf has been saying on here. Instead of putting the situation right and letting events follow their natural path, you have chosen remain silent on the issue and to exploit a lie in order to make your point and to massage your ego. Well that's ok, keep it to yourself and help derf. Perhaps you could join him later, underneath his stone.

Today you have also labeled people with mental health issues as retards. I think the mask has slipped.

You promote yourself as being in favour of remaining within the EU as some sort of self sacrificing act of benevolence. You posses a sort of, "It's the poor and the disadvantaged who will suffer, but I shall be thy saviour" &"They know not where the shepherd Farage leadeth them" type of attitude. Whilst simultaneously referring to them as retards. It really is quite appalling to witness this.

I am understanding more about you and how you tick. You have indeed achieved a level of hypocrisy which I had previously considered unattainable. Congratulations.

 

[tillson]

Perhaps because you are attempting to spoil the fun!
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flecc, even though I profoundly disagree with you over BREXIT I have a lot of respect for you. I always read your posts carefully because they usually make sense and are coherent. I'll even admit to irritatingly agreeing with you, but not quite able to bring myself to hit the agree button!

However, I think today has taken a sinister turn and we have progressed from nasty and bad tempered (ok with me) into downright lying about individuals. Unacceptable. The record needs setting straight.

I think it is out of order to refer to this sort of behaviour as fun.

 

[oldgroaner]

Tom, I am pleased that you posted this.

I can take the rough and tumble of forum life. I dish out enough, so I expect to get it back and that is ok.

However, you and I both know that you hold a key which will unlock the truth about what derf has been saying on here. Instead of putting the situation right and letting events follow their natural path, you have chosen remain silent on the issue and to exploit a lie in order to make your point and to massage your ego. Well that's ok, keep it to yourself and help derf. Perhaps you could join him later, underneath his stone.

Today you have also labeled people with mental health issues as retards. I think the mask has slipped.

You promote yourself as being in favour of remaining within the EU as some sort of self sacrificing act of benevolence. You posses a sort of, "It's the poor and the disadvantaged who will suffer, but I shall be thy saviour" &"They know not where the shepherd Farage leadeth them" type of attitude. Whilst simultaneously referring to them as retards. It really is quite appalling to witness this.

I am understanding more about you and how you tick. You have indeed achieved a level of hypocrisy which I had previously considered unattainable. Congratulations.

Just to put the record straight, it was actually you tillson in post #7992
That described people thus
"But you are a fool tom, so it must be very hard to live with yourself
Are you having a sign made which says,
"Road Closed due to retards"?I would have though that to be much more your level"

Can you offer a valid reason for using such a derogatory term?
Why was it used, you must have had some person or group in mind,
And why it was both attributed to tom?
And used in judgement of him when it was your remark?

Hopefully this was meant in jest, though actually in poor taste. and a little less holier than thou wouldn't go amiss.
None of us are saints (Except for one I'm ignoring of course)

 

[oldtom]

Oh, yes that makes it really funny..
Like smiling after telling a racist joke.

I really can't understand why you stick around Zlatan. You have simply disparaged and condemned forum members and the administrators/mods from your first visit without contributing anything of value to the debate.

I may not be the most tolerant chap around but you have been critical towards people who have extended you courtesy I don't believe you deserve. In my view you are quite simply a sad character who gets his thrills by internet trolling.

Would you not be happier elsewhere? (rhetorical question)

Tom

 

[flecc]

Oh, yes that makes it really funny..
Like smiling after telling a racist joke.

Again your distorted judgement comes into play. The wink smiley isn't making jokes, there are more suitable smileys for that. It indicates a tongue in cheek comment, i.e. not really serious.
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[Zlatan]

Jacob Rees Mogg on " Have I Got News For You "

I,d guess they,ll merciless with him.
Cant imagine it being his preferred environment...

 

[flecc]

However, I think today has taken a sinister turn

I think it is out of order to refer to this sort of behaviour as fun.

I agree on the nasty turn of events, but in respect of my post you misunderstand. So I refer you to the latter sentence of my reply to Zlatan.

The wink smiley indicates a somewhat teasing not really serious comment.

Fun in the funny sense is better indicated by such as:

Gentle fun:

Laughing:

Humorous challenging:
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[Zlatan]

Flecc
You can interpret it however you wish but fact of matter is this thread ( cant really speak for forum) is not a nice place and many of its comments are insulting and out of order. Come on flecc Tom continually calls folk idiots , scum, racist. Derf does same. The retards comments are simply the next step .
No matter what emoticon you stick on retard ( and schizophrenic) its terrible..
What's next ??
And why do you defend posters not sticking to rules ???
There are some fantastic posters in here,Kudos,KTM,Tilllson yourself and others make valuable contributions staying within both the rules and common decency, and offering argument for both sides.
Other posters cant post without breaking nearly all the rules,in doing so they drive the discussion down to insult engulfing all of us. Its ridiculous.
I wonder how many dont post because they know the reaction they will receive??

 

[tillson]

Just to put the record straight, it was actually you tillson in post #7992
That described people thus
"But you are a fool tom, so it must be very hard to live with yourself
Are you having a sign made which says,
"Road Closed due to retards"?I would have though that to be much more your level"

Can you offer a valid reason for using such a derogatory term?
Why was it used, you must have had some person or group in mind,
And why it was both attributed to tom?
And used in judgement of him when it was your remark?

OG, old tom used the term retard in post number #7952, some 40 posts prior to mine. I thought it to be unacceptable at that time.

Here is his post

Only a retard would continue to mis-spell the name of a famous person after attention had been drawn to it previously.
Tom

This is why I drew attention to his behaviour in post #7992. I hope that this sets the record straight for you.

 

[oldgroaner]

OG, old tom used the term retard in post number #7952, some 40 posts prior to mine. I thought it to be unacceptable at that time.

Here is his post



This is why I drew attention to his behaviour in post #7992. I hope that this sets the record straight for you.

It does, two wrongs make a right as they say Hmm?
Fair enough if you don't have the Thought police watching as we do.
Have a nice evening, and you never did say whether I had been forgiven or not.....

 

[tillson]

It does, two wrongs make a right as they say Hmm?
Fair enough if you don't have the Thought police watching as we do.
Have a nice evening, and you never did say whether I had been forgiven or not.....

OG, I wasn't using the term retard to insult anyone. I was using it to illustrate the unacceptable way that he had used the word in a previous post. How else do I say he called someone a that word without using the word?

Here in post #7635 he uses the same word again.

No, Dave.

I'm afraid the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip demonstrated how stupid tory supporters are when they voted for the this retard following the retirement of local bigwig, John Randall last year

.

Now get after him and ask him the same questions as you were asking me in post #8069. No I didn't think so.

Yes, you are forgiven. I do not dislike you.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Listen you guys if this name calling doesn't stop soon I will throw all my toys out of the pram! I am not kidding I will really do this! So just stop now!
Jeez I never believed I would see the English of all the peoples on the earth as thin skinned as the bloody yanks!

Where did your legendary self derision go. No, don't tell me Thatcher took that with her to hell too?

 

[flecc]

Flecc
You can interpret it however you wish but fact of matter is this thread ( cant really speak for forum) is not a nice place and many of its comments are insulting and out of order. Come on flecc Tom continually calls folk idiots , scum, racist. Derf does same. The retards comments are simply the next step

So ignore those and let the world judge, why get individually upset?

No matter what emoticon you stick on retard ( and schizophrenic) its terrible..

I didn't stick an emoticon on retard, I used a wink smiley to try to tempt you to do the above and relax about what you cannot change.

And why do you defend posters not sticking to rules ???

I never have, I once pointed out that the Administrator has a relaxed attitude and tries to avoid censorship. I didn't say I supported that, I just said it was his to run as he wished.
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[tillson]

OG, I wasn't using the term retard to insult anyone. I was using it to illustrate the unacceptable way that he had used the word in a previous post. How else do I say he called someone a that word without using the word?

Here in post #7635 he uses the same word again.

No, Dave.

I'm afraid the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip demonstrated how stupid tory supporters are when they voted for the this retard following the retirement of local bigwig, John Randall last year

.

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Now get after him and ask him the same questions as you were asking me in post #8069. No I didn't think so.

Yes, you are forgiven. I do not dislike you.

The man is an appalling hypocrite, you should realise this by now.[/QUOTE]

 

[oldtom]

OG, old tom used the term retard in post number #7952, some 40 posts prior to mine. I thought it to be unacceptable at that time.

Perhaps it was unacceptable to you with your impeccable behavioural standards, displayed time and again in these pages. You really are the consummate hypocrite!

In the context the expression was used, while it may be construed by those of a particularly sensitive disposition as unacceptable, it was entirely appropriate directed at our recently acquired troll.

Grow up and stop behaving like a big girl's blouse,'tillson'.

Tom