Flecc don't forget these blades are for local market consumption only unless we get a good deal with the EU
A huge field is being equipped off Hornsea, and once that is completed, what happens then?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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A huge field is being equipped off Hornsea, and once that is completed, what happens then?
looks like this Brexit charade is going to be a long job if this info is true
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Theresa May, who will take office on Wednesday, has said she will not trigger article 50 before the end of the year, in order to give the British government time to work out its negotiating strategy. On Tuesday, Philip Hammond, the foreign secretary, said it could take as long as six years for the UK to extricate itself from the EU.
After consulting lawyers, EU officials have acknowledged they have no power to compel the UK to trigger article 50. But the European parliament will help determine the final outcome of the divorce.
In his Guardian article, Schulz underlined this point by warning that MEPs could veto the final Brexit agreement, meaning the UK could be forced out of the EU with only its World Trade Organisation membership to fall back on. A weighted majority of EU governments will also need to approve the Brexit deal.
Falling out of the EU without a trade deal would mean a tariff wall would go up
between the UK and rest of Europe. Although average tariffs are low, some could prove punishing, such as 10% on cars and 35% on dairy products."
It appears 7 years is being bandied about,
The chances of it actually happening are not good, are they?
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Theresa May, who will take office on Wednesday, has said she will not trigger article 50 before the end of the year, in order to give the British government time to work out its negotiating strategy. On Tuesday, Philip Hammond, the foreign secretary, said it could take as long as six years for the UK to extricate itself from the EU.
After consulting lawyers, EU officials have acknowledged they have no power to compel the UK to trigger article 50. But the European parliament will help determine the final outcome of the divorce.
In his Guardian article, Schulz underlined this point by warning that MEPs could veto the final Brexit agreement, meaning the UK could be forced out of the EU with only its World Trade Organisation membership to fall back on. A weighted majority of EU governments will also need to approve the Brexit deal.
Falling out of the EU without a trade deal would mean a tariff wall would go up
between the UK and rest of Europe. Although average tariffs are low, some could prove punishing, such as 10% on cars and 35% on dairy products."
It appears 7 years is being bandied about,
The chances of it actually happening are not good, are they?
Yes,for all practical purposes Theresa May will ignore the referendum,appearances will be deceptive over the next few months.
The people have had their fun and if Leadsom or Gove had been elected PM,that fun would have continued until we had the same crisis that Labour finds itself now. But the power behind the Tory party,which is the same as behind the country,that power is money,Leadsom/Gove/Boris were all bribed by a seat in Cabinet,threatened with forever cast into the wilderness,be interesting what jobs they are given.
The people had their fun,Cameron misunderstood what people wanted,but May will soon ensure that normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
KudosDave
the crucial test is when to invoke article 50. There are two options: wait until after the French and German elections, that will be end of 2017.
The other option is to ask all the 27 members to agree extending the negociation period from 2 years to 5 years for an immediate article 50.
It seems to me that the right strategy is to continue negociations unofficially without changing the current status. The brexiters will eventually tire of waiting and will demand fresh new election or another referendum.
The other option is to ask all the 27 members to agree extending the negociation period from 2 years to 5 years for an immediate article 50.
It seems to me that the right strategy is to continue negociations unofficially without changing the current status. The brexiters will eventually tire of waiting and will demand fresh new election or another referendum.
I don't agree with you there flecc. I think that people are a lot more savvy to the devious ways of the politicians and there is likely to be a reaction if a con is worked. I don't think many people fell for Camerons spinning of his reform deal from Europe. I think one factor that can quickly energise opinion is social media. i don't think that politicians can get away with so much because of it.
I don't disagree with the sentiments which I'm sure are true, but I have regard for the way the population tire of issues eventually. This process if dragged out for two or more years will leave everyone so thoroughly bored that their lethargy will possibly triumph.
The few with staying power could be insufficient to achieve anything.
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The people had there fun.....
It is very difficult to relate to such pessimism and negativity, it's a wonder you can get up in the morning, or is it just this thread. I hope so or ....
We are all doooooomed
Maybe, but mobiles abroad and flight delay compo is small beer and a price worth paying, IF it happens. Completion in the mobile sector is intense and 3 have been offering cheap calls in the EU and beyond long before any EU rules came in. I can't see them scrapping that. However, I am very encouraged by the Sirmens announcement. Jobs and investment into industry is welcome news.
Derf
If your underpriviliged eutopia is so good how come you are here ???
And only reason I mentioned the girls sat on plastic chairs is to highlight socioeconomic state of region. Seems few on here have empathy to understand position a family must be in to let girls within it go out doing what they do. We aren't talking about a few, the roads in northern Spain are littered with them..not to mention the social care shown by a nation within our glorious eu to allow it to happen.
But by all means take the ****, they aren't your relatives or friends living like it..in our eu.
And I wonder what eu health and safety work practices they are breaking. Makes a complete mockery of H&S rules.
If your underpriviliged eutopia is so good how come you are here ???
And only reason I mentioned the girls sat on plastic chairs is to highlight socioeconomic state of region. Seems few on here have empathy to understand position a family must be in to let girls within it go out doing what they do. We aren't talking about a few, the roads in northern Spain are littered with them..not to mention the social care shown by a nation within our glorious eu to allow it to happen.
But by all means take the ****, they aren't your relatives or friends living like it..in our eu.
And I wonder what eu health and safety work practices they are breaking. Makes a complete mockery of H&S rules.
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It depends upon your view,I see the election of Theresa May as the start of us climbing out of the current political mess,whether your politics are Labour or Tory,we need a period of stability to establish confidence, to promote investment both internally and externally.
Nothing pessimistic or negative in that,well not from my view.
Do you see the appointment of May as pessimistic or negative?
The people had their fun with this referendum ,just like a protest vote in a bi-election,but those same people didn't anticipate the damage that prolonged exit suggestion would have caused. I don't think those people would have welcomed the recession and accompanying austerity that would have been the short and medium term result,the long term is difficult to predict but would the people have waited that long.
Do you really think we are doomed?
Now that May is in charge,we will cast aside Brexit,it may be good that we have energised more people to have an interest in politics.
I have an interest in politics and am much enjoying this episode in our history,I am lucky I don't any longer have to work for my living and also lucky that I enjoy going to work, I much enjoy my job,as I have for 44 years of trading,whatever happened with Brexit we would have prospered,it would have caused short term difficulties but we would have overcome just as we have in the previous recessions.
Are you a happy man?
Are you happy with the current outcome?
KudosDave
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Trex....do you honestly think that we will make any attempt to trigger Article 50? We will have an early warning.....all the negotiations of trying to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act.
Why should Theresa May go anywhere near either of these tasks,that would be like pulling the pin out of a grenade and holding it for 2 years.
Those who say there are 17 million reasons(maybe a lot less now) but there are 16 million reasons(maybe a lot more now) to ignore Brexit.
People have short memories,by 2020 there will be many events that will cast this referendum into a distant memory.
KudosDave
Well such a long delay for Brexit to come true has to be good news for the Police Federation, as from now on May will have to be nice to them out of necessity.
The increase of crime by far right extremists who are not happy at the delay will means lots of overtime for them, and she'll need them onside.
Watch for a sudden change of tone demanding more tolerance of foreigners in the gutter press.
Back to the days when it was not possible to speak out about multicuturalism, now that letting them have their say to push Brexit is no longer deemed necessary.
We cant have them upsetting any Foreign investors who might want to come here, can we? look at the remarks of the Siemens Boss!
And it makes a handy stick to beat UKIP with (mind you that's not a bad idea).
The increase of crime by far right extremists who are not happy at the delay will means lots of overtime for them, and she'll need them onside.
Watch for a sudden change of tone demanding more tolerance of foreigners in the gutter press.
Back to the days when it was not possible to speak out about multicuturalism, now that letting them have their say to push Brexit is no longer deemed necessary.
We cant have them upsetting any Foreign investors who might want to come here, can we? look at the remarks of the Siemens Boss!
And it makes a handy stick to beat UKIP with (mind you that's not a bad idea).
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Yet more conspiracy theory claptrap.
Really? didn't you think it at all odd how a year or so ago suddenly there was a sea change in what was permissible to comment on in the papers, and how inflammatory the comments were allowed to be?
It was obviously happening for a reason.
People had long held these opinions about multiculturalism, but comments against it never appeared in the papers.
And you deny there was some reason for that?
Are you going to bury your head in the sand and deny there will be trouble ahead?
Care to make that prediction?
how to explain to an anglo saxon life isn't only about relative deprivation, competition and exploitation? to me your opening sentence ("Why are you here?") summarises much of the culture of this little island that fuelled brexit (as a rather sad expression of morbid self-interest meet xenophobia/fear of the world). the num,ber of tiumes Englishmen on benefits have asked me that question (followed by "do you work?") once discovering im an immigrant is frankly hilarious. talk about projective identification. I'm not here forever. there's a reason two million plus british don't retire here. The UK isn't bad. But the xenophobia and obsession with money here can be.
To give you short answer as possible. Yes I am happy with outcome of vote, I am not happy with the political shenanigans which Cameron forced by resigning, which in my view was just selfish given what he created. I am happy with the choice of May, I think she will bring stability and also deliver on Brexit. The instability in the market is not surprising given the games of Cameron , Osborne and there recruited cast of chorus girls. Osborne has to go, his actions were unforgivable. The economic situation in my view is so far 80% what it would have been anyway and is ok, we have not really felt any repercussions yet despite the hand ringing and hair shirt brigade
The future whilst uncertain how we shall proceed is bright
The one cloud on the near horizon is the nay Sayers that cannot accept the decision and are trying with all their might to reverse it or stall it, which I find utterly despicable. That is were the damage can come.
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it seems to me that brexiters on the forum do not want to acknowledge that brexit will impose on the UK economy a huge cost for decades to come, in jobs moving to the EU and in loss of foreign investments. It's possible that the future after brexit is bright, it's also possible that it won't be. Most experts side with the latter. Imagine one of you have to lead the negotiation. Your job is to keep the cost to our economy down, you will have to take advice from the experts you disagree with, and convince your anti-brexit cabinet and parliament to buy it. Poison chalice. No chance of success unless you can get a brexit parliament. It's not going to happen anytime soon.