Brexit, for once some facts.

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maybe.
I am skeptical. Find me a well educated, intelligent toff minister, and able to speak fluently a foreign language in recent years
Much as I dislike the man, Boris Johnson is multilingual, speaking Latin, French and Italian fluently, with passable German and Spanish.

Also intelligent enough to have edited major newspapers and become an MP twice, though those are admittedly rather evil ways of using intelligence.

And he qualifies as a toff, though some would say toffer with medieval pronuciation of the f character.
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Much as I dislike the man, Boris Johnson is multilingual, speaking Latin, French and Italian fluently, with passable German and Spanish.

Also intelligent enough to have edited major newspapers and become an MP twice, though those are admittedly rather evil ways of using intelligence.

And he qualifies as a toff, though some would say toffer with medieval pronuciation of the f character.
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You naughty flecc you! that chap from the North Pole will be after you for that!
Boris is proof education doesn't improve the pupil all the time, but
He can come out with some profound observations on occasion like this

"It was his first public appearance since he caused controversy by suggesting some people struggle to get on in life because of their low IQs, adding that the bigger cornflakes tended to end up at the top of the packet."
He had managed to fail every IQ test question put to him on a Radio show.
"The test came after the mayor sparked a wave of criticism last week when he said that 16 per cent of “our species” had an IQ of less than 85 and just 2 per cent over 130 before adding “the harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top”.
Who would argue that Brexit isn't the biggest shake up yet, and who qualifies as the "Biggest Cornflake?" Boris of course, the biggest in a box of Cornflakes.
He is the living proof of that!
 
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There appear to be a load of studies completed by the Government that we've paid for that they aren't releasing. I wonder why?

http://www.europeanmovement.co.uk/release_the_studies
I've signed the Petition, but we all know the answer don't we?
The truth is the results are Damning
The Government knows this will undermine their position, here and in negotiations with the EU, so they make the excuse of "playing their cards close to their chest"
Rather than admit they have an utterly lousy hand.
 
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Rather than admit they have an utterly lousy hand.
yes, rather.
Time for a change at the top.
I wonder what direction the conservative party will take if Philip Hammond takes over the PM job.
 

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You naughty flecc you! that chap from the North Pole will be after you for that!
Boris is proof education doesn't improve the pupil all the time, but
He can come out with some profound observations on occasion like this

"It was his first public appearance since he caused controversy by suggesting some people struggle to get on in life because of their low IQs, adding that the bigger cornflakes tended to end up at the top of the packet."
He had managed to fail every IQ test question put to him on a Radio show.
"The test came after the mayor sparked a wave of criticism last week when he said that 16 per cent of “our species” had an IQ of less than 85 and just 2 per cent over 130 before adding “the harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top”.
Who would argue that Brexit isn't the biggest shake up yet, and who qualifies as the "Biggest Cornflake?" Boris of course, the biggest in a box of Cornflakes.
He is the living proof of that!
That's one of Flecc's better posts...
By the way Flecc, I wonder what your saviour JC would do about the North Korean problem...threaten to send Diane Abbot? That would probably solve it..???
 
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That's one of Flecc's better posts...
By the way Flecc, I wonder what your saviour JC would do about the North Korean problem...threaten to send Diane Abbot? That would probably solve it..???
I was hoping you would volunteer to go and confuse them into not knowing which side they are on assuming of course you can remember who you are talking to[emoji1]

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By the way Flecc, I wonder what your saviour JC would do about the North Korean problem...
Carry on as he's doing now, ignoring it in the hope that it will go away or someone else solves it.

He's a wise old bird, Jeremy, motto probably "Why do something when you don't have to?".
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Carry on as he's doing now, ignoring it in the hope that it will go away or someone else solves it.

He's a wise old bird, Jeremy, motto probably "Why do something when you don't have to?".
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Since they don't appear to be able to fit a warhead to the missiles, the fuss is being artificially inflated for political reasons
It would be far easier to sail a ship loaded with a bomb into an american port.
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Since they don't appear to be able to fit a warhead to the missiles, the fuss is being artificially inflated for political reasons
It would be far easier to sail a ship loaded with a bomb into an american port.
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I think sending Diane Abott is a much better idea..
 
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Carry on as he's doing now, ignoring it in the hope that it will go away or someone else solves it.

He's a wise old bird, Jeremy, motto probably "Why do something when you don't have to?".
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Isn't that Lord Nigel's Family Motto?

quid faciam quod non habeo quo est?

It sings, I must put that under my coat of arms too

As they say down the local Working Men's Club

Shakespear id quod se cum putes huc cacas:cool:

And no , Google won't translate it back correctly, so don't bother!
 
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You naughty flecc you! that chap from the North Pole will be after you for that!
Boris is proof education doesn't improve the pupil all the time, but
He can come out with some profound observations on occasion like this

"It was his first public appearance since he caused controversy by suggesting some people struggle to get on in life because of their low IQs, adding that the bigger cornflakes tended to end up at the top of the packet."
He had managed to fail every IQ test question put to him on a Radio show.
"The test came after the mayor sparked a wave of criticism last week when he said that 16 per cent of “our species” had an IQ of less than 85 and just 2 per cent over 130 before adding “the harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top”.
Who would argue that Brexit isn't the biggest shake up yet, and who qualifies as the "Biggest Cornflake?" Boris of course, the biggest in a box of Cornflakes.
He is the living proof of that!
When he's right he's right.... The image below is of the standard iq curve with a standard deviation of 15.

That argument about cornflakes, is surely in favour of a meritocracy not inheritance ???
IQ_distribution.svg.png
 
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When he's right he's right.... The image below is of the standard iq curve with a standard deviation of 15.

That argument about cornflakes, is surely in favour of a meritocracy not inheritance ???
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Well at least it proves he knows something even if the Marie Claire Magazine made this comment
"Perhaps the most surprising of these is Boris Johnson, who has an IQ of 79, a result considered to be ‘below average.’
Here’s the IQ list in full:
79 Boris Johnson
85 Andy Warhol
86 Steve Jobs
94 Tom Cruise
104 Britney Spears
119 John F. Kennedy
120 Paris Hilton
125 George Bush
130 Barack Obama
131 David Cameron
133 James Franco
135 Arnold Schwarzenegger
137 Bill Clinton
138 Emma Watson
140 Hillary Clinton
141 Madonna
142 Robin Williams
154 Cindy Crawford
155 Carol Vorderman
156 Donald Trump
159 Quentin Tarantino
160 Bill Gates
161 Lisa Kudrow
162 Albert Einstein
163 Stephen Hawking
165 Charles Darwin
170 Judith Polgar
175 Margaret Thatcher
178 Rowan Atkinson
180 Charles Dickens
190 Isaac Newton

Donald Trump at 156? lets hope nobody tells him!
But then again Mr Bean at 178? now that I can believe!

Regarding his remarks about Corn Flakes, he was actually putting "spin" on the more accurate observation that
"Scum rises to the top as it is usually full of gaseous waste products"

Meritocacy indeed! in Politics?:cool:
 
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As thread approaches 1000 pages and 20,000 replies it might be worth pointing out just how much of a contribution some posters have made to thread. I,d estimate the biggest contributor has posted approaching a quarter of a million words.( give or take 50,000 words or so)

Putting that in perspective , below is a list of novels , with their word count. ( War and Peace varies according to which translation is counted, but you get my point)


Alan Paton

Cry, the Beloved Country

83,774

Joseph Heller Catch-22 174,269

Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse-Five 49,459

Kurt Vonnegut Welcome to the Monkey House 99,560

Leo Tolstoy War and Peace 587,287

Amazing really. Well done..

Some way to go to beat Leo but first Harry Potter was well under 100,000...Quite a few have past that...and fiction to match..
 

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As thread approaches 1000 pages and 20,000 replies it might be worth pointing out just how much of a contribution some posters have made to thread. I,d estimate the biggest contributor has posted approaching a quarter of a million words.( give or take 50,000 words or so)

Putting that in perspective , below is a list of novels , with their word count. ( War and Peace varies according to which translation is counted, but you get my point)


Alan Paton

Cry, the Beloved Country

83,774

Joseph Heller Catch-22 174,269

Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse-Five 49,459

Kurt Vonnegut Welcome to the Monkey House 99,560

Leo Tolstoy War and Peace 587,287

Amazing really. Well done..

Some way to go to beat Leo but first Harry Potter was well under 100,000...Quite a few have past that...and fiction to match..
Correct me if I'm wrong but I get the oddest feeling that quite unintentionally, sort of like Collateral Damage, I am being singled out for faint praise here.............but since it's Zlatan making the comment, it's really hard to understand where he's coming from or going to, as this may have changed while I was typing this response.

On the off chance that it was meant as a Compliment, thank you very much, otherwise, keep up the much needed working on the witty ripostes and press on regardless.

And when all is said and done we are still waiting for that magic moment when someone provides a Concrete case for the notion that Brexit will be the right direction to give the sort of Future that the nation deserves.
I must be hard for the Brexit voters to maintain their faith that TM will deliver the future they want.

Best illustrated by likening their predicament to the scene from Dad's Army where Corporal Jones reassures Captain Manwaring
"I want you to know Sir that I have ABSOLUTE FAITH in you!"
then mutters
"Even if nobody else has"
 
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