Brexit, for once some facts.
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Davis painted himself into a corner.
He can't be a hard brexiter and cooperative with the EU at the same time.
If I were TM, I'd replace Davis with Gove.
He'd sweet talk the hard brexiters into wanting to negotiate and cooperate.
If brexit is on WTO terms, then the reality is to accept a hard border between NI and ROI, with the possibility of reunification of Ireland. There is no mileage in adopting a confusing position.
He can't be a hard brexiter and cooperative with the EU at the same time.
If I were TM, I'd replace Davis with Gove.
He'd sweet talk the hard brexiters into wanting to negotiate and cooperate.
If brexit is on WTO terms, then the reality is to accept a hard border between NI and ROI, with the possibility of reunification of Ireland. There is no mileage in adopting a confusing position.
Just ignore the border problem in Ireland.....when the guys in N.I. start moving serious amount of non tariff product from N.I. to Ireland and then onto mainland Europe,then the EU will put pressure on Ireland to build a hard border to stop that flow,the EU will pay for the border and accept the responsibility of policing and maintaining.....no problem for the UK.
Maybe Davis has suggested that ,which is why Barnier/Juncker is suggesting that we are not serious,maybe we are not doing what they want.
The border is their problem not ours.
We just have to appear stupid,that should be easy and natural.
KudosDave
Maybe Davis has suggested that ,which is why Barnier/Juncker is suggesting that we are not serious,maybe we are not doing what they want.
The border is their problem not ours.
We just have to appear stupid,that should be easy and natural.
KudosDave
For maximum comedy effect, why not launch Rees Mogg at the EU?
Lets see what a Toff can do!
That's what I have just said,....'we just have to appear stupid'.....Rees-Mogg would do a good job of that.
KudosDave
Paper's cheap, and come to think of it so are Government promises of "Pay the Bearer"
Shake that "Money Tree"
What do you mean "APPEAR" stupid?
He's the KOSHER article, Lord Charles brought to life.
maybe.
I am skeptical. Find me a well educated, intelligent toff minister, and able to speak fluently a foreign language in recent years
By now I doubt even he wants the job, you'd have to be as Daft as Moggy to do that!
After all Boris didn't want it and Gollum's wife said "NO!"
JRM was only a rich peasant and a city dealer before the brexit referendum.
He reminds me of a character in Poldark.
Well Moggy fits in two out of three of those categories, aren't you being a bit "picky" requiring intelligence?
Not normally required on the CV of a Politician now is it?
Be Fair
we are at a natural disadvantage because most politicians working in the EU can speak English and none of our ministers can speak well enough a foreign language.
They can spy on us.
I have a cunning plan Sir! said Baldrick
"Cant we pay them the money if they agree to say publicly they actually asked for a lot more but we made them agree?"
Do you realise they might be reading your posts right now!
That will serve 'em right!
And the worst Foreign language our politicians struggle with is?
Roll of Drums
.......
The Truth
From the Independent
May demands new sanctions and won't rule out military response to 'outrageous' North Korea test.
So sorry, but really we can't fit in a war right now, just as a diversion
May demands new sanctions and won't rule out military response to 'outrageous' North Korea test.
So sorry, but really we can't fit in a war right now, just as a diversion
I think Theresa May is wanting us to crash out....think of the advantages...
1. No more contributions to pay.
2. Collecting all those tariff dues,probably £20 billion from the EU....we bring in lots from Asia so probably similar from China/Asia.
3. The pound crashing is making our stuff look very cheap in Euroland
4. Bring down corporation tax to 15% to keep big business here.
5. The fall in the £ value means paying back the debt easier and lowering the deficit.
6. Leave our borders as open as possible for exports (smuggling),no need for an Irish border.
I think Davis has realised that,maybe even been told,that is why he doesn't seem to be trying hard to get a deal.
KudosDave
1. No more contributions to pay.
2. Collecting all those tariff dues,probably £20 billion from the EU....we bring in lots from Asia so probably similar from China/Asia.
3. The pound crashing is making our stuff look very cheap in Euroland
4. Bring down corporation tax to 15% to keep big business here.
5. The fall in the £ value means paying back the debt easier and lowering the deficit.
6. Leave our borders as open as possible for exports (smuggling),no need for an Irish border.
I think Davis has realised that,maybe even been told,that is why he doesn't seem to be trying hard to get a deal.
KudosDave
you've done an excellent job to justify why brexit.