Brexit, for once some facts.
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to achieve parity, we should encourage 23 million Britons to emigrate before March 2019.
I suggest universal pardon and compulsory transport for all our prison population for a start.
I suggest universal pardon and compulsory transport for all our prison population for a start.
I am not in a hurry, now the risk of hard brexit seems to have greatly reduced.
Well there were hopes of exporting more to Australia, but I don't think that was quite what Brexiters had in mind.
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I interpreted that remark differently, coming from a man most unlikely to ever be king.
While I imagine that William's father, Charles, would be happy at 68 years old to avoid his royal duty in that regard, I would guess that William would jump at the chance, whether in his turn or prematurely. I have to think that Harry may have spoken out of turn and others might prefer to dissociate themselves from his comment.
My preferred option would be the abolition of the monarchy and house of Lords as both institutions are anachronisms, defunct and devoid of any useful purpose.
Tom
Regardless of age, Charles has never relished the prospect since he likes to interfere in society, something he knows he will no longer be able to do once king.
I'm not so sure William is keen, there's been no adverse comment or qualification from the palace. Harry and William are close, so I can't imagine Harry saying "no-one in the family wants to be king", deliberately excluding William. That would be very odd.
Yes, he was certainly speaking out of turn, but I think he was speaking from knowledge.
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I won't express a view on the existence of royality, other than I believe in a republic, where all are citizens and all have equal rights, but I do have a view on having two chambers in the legislature.
.. there is a value in having a second house in parliament eg a senate , which ideally would be less partisan than the house of people's representatives. However termed.
It can be structured in a more reflective way so that legislation gets reviewed and amended.
It could be structured to represent the institutional requirements of society eg. CBI, engineering council, armed forces, police, major sporting bodies , Medical and nursing councils , arts council.
Lets get this simple fact straight. Voting for Brexit split the country, it has nothing whatever to do with me has it?
If there hadn't been a Brexit marginal victory there wouldn't be a split would there?
Thank you for the compliment to think it was caused by Tom and I, but really, to come out with such a statement is derisory either you are simply being silly or it's a sign of a personality problem, for how do some posts on a Forum of this nature have the effect that your too vivid imagination credits them with?
Have we really reached out and touched the lives of 65 Million people?
Shouldn't you be seeking help with these strange ideas you harbour?
We have the weakest Government because more people like you are behaving as if they do indeed have brains of concrete, and will not bring themselves to accept they are the cause of the problem, made an awful mistake being conned into voting for Brexit and still vote for the fools who invented and sold the mad idea, instead of uniting to end their destructive careers.
Do us all a favour talk sense for once instead of this juvenile blaming others for your mistake.
The behaviour that is unacceptable is to continue to support a mad wager known as Brexit, and the malevolent faction in Parliament that instigated this madness that will harm us all.
And one might add, is ratting on the promises they made every day.
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Bit late, shouldn't you have listened to warnings of where voting for Brexit would lead?
On your own head be it.
But you had to make a bet in the hope of profit didn't you?
There's an easy way to restore peace but no one has the guts to do it.
Cancel Brexit, it's dead in the water anyway.
May I remind you that the Big supporter of Brexit The Daily Mail was on BOTH sides in the last war?
And it was their propaganda that was and is directed to support Brexit.
Like the other Murdoch rags inciting unrest in the population is circulation to them, and they are paid hansomely to do it.
By the way telling someone the truth is not "insulting" someone, even though you regard it as such.
I watched Andrew Neil's 'This Week' last night.
I have always liked Portillo - he is to me a would be good conservative leader.
His view on brexit is clear: we don't know what brexit is going to be like, but we know it won't be hard brexit after the election.
Expect the Torygraph to change their tune soon.
I have always liked Portillo - he is to me a would be good conservative leader.
His view on brexit is clear: we don't know what brexit is going to be like, but we know it won't be hard brexit after the election.
Expect the Torygraph to change their tune soon.
Because up until now the "lady" has done a U-turn on everything she has said, I wouldn't be reassured if I were a EU citizen living in the UK. Without even going into the nasty little details like having all rights of being an EU citizen removed and replaced with their UK "equivalent"...
What does Britannia actually rule these days, I ask out of curiosity, do tell.
We have no less than 7 Patrol boats to cover 7,500 miles of coast,,and a Navy that is having either outboard motors or oars fitted for warm water operations.
I missed that TV show but probably wouldn't have watched it anyway, had I known it was on, as I don't care for the arrogant manner of Neil. Unusually for me, I actually agree with your view on Portillo as I think he has more considered opinions on a range of issues which, to me, mark him down as centrist or slightly left-wing within the tory party.
My understanding is, however, that he has certain peccadillos beyond his admission of homosexual liaisons as a young man, (so I have been informed) which, in the conservative party would forever preclude him becoming leader. I can't vouch for the veracity of what I have heard alleged and many might say, 'Does it matter?'
As he has been out of parliamentary politics since 2005 and now has a successful and lucrative career in the media, I shouldn't think he is likely to return to politics any time soon.
Tom
Social media users have been having a field day with the PM's visit to the palace:
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You have just described exactly why a second chamber does not work in practice 'Danidl'. With so many 'interest groups', instead of designing the finest example of a racehorse, the huge committee involved produce a camel!
'Ideally would be less partisan' is a lovely notion but I wouldn't want to hold my breath for that to come to fruition.
Tom
Since I heard the government's 'offer' towards EU citizens currently domiciled in the UK, I have been mulling it over trying to decide whether or not it is in fact fair and realistic.
My inclination, as one who spends considerable time in the EU mainland countries, is that it fails to achieve what those citizens really need to know. It also jeopardises the position of UK citizens domiciled in other EU states as the EU have already offered them better assurances than May and her party seem prepared to provide by way of reciprocation. That might not be on the table too long, at this rate!
Thankfully, there are interest groups concerned over the ramifications of this whole 'Brexit' nonsense who share my fears:
eu-expats-condemn-theresa-may-pathetic-offer-on-brexit-rights
Tom
My inclination, as one who spends considerable time in the EU mainland countries, is that it fails to achieve what those citizens really need to know. It also jeopardises the position of UK citizens domiciled in other EU states as the EU have already offered them better assurances than May and her party seem prepared to provide by way of reciprocation. That might not be on the table too long, at this rate!
Thankfully, there are interest groups concerned over the ramifications of this whole 'Brexit' nonsense who share my fears:
eu-expats-condemn-theresa-may-pathetic-offer-on-brexit-rights
Tom
Yesterday was the longest day; it was also the day that the Daily Mail denied the accusation of 'fanning the flames of Islamophobia and racism'.
There is only one Daily Mail that I know of:
Tom
There is only one Daily Mail that I know of:
Tom