Brexit, for once some facts.

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Sunak's Vedic astrologers won't be happy, this is a Hindu portent of doom - it's an obsession among India's elite. Pagans here were deeply fearful of the future when they saw solar eclipses, full or partial.

 
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we cant vote for the cat tho but it does not matter who takes over as debt is 100% of gdp and the plan of printing more money is falling apart as no one wants to buy the debts/bonds anymore.

it will either go bang in one go or be a 10 year rot of the dollar money makes the world go round and we are just the debt slaves to the 1% and corporations that lobby governments for the legislation they want in laws.

and then we will all live here yay.
 
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Boston University researchers combined the Washington strain of the virulent Wuhan-1 SARS-COV2 with the spikes of Omicron. The recombinant virus has killed 8 test mice out of 10. The original Washington strain killed 6 mice out of 6 and the Omicron strain killed none. The newly created virus is as infectious as Omicron but more virulent.
There is no question that their technique is well known, the question is: did they achieve a gain of function and was it their objective? if your answer is yes, then their research was illegal and should not have been funded.
 

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common denominator between eighty seat majority then and the Tories current polling is indeed Boris: both are function of same populist lies & stupidity. Am sure the electorate would just love to be led up the same path again. But twice bitten markets and Brexit ruined economy wont allow any of that for a generation.
I think there is all too often a mental disconnect.

As party leader, they are appealing to their voters, and the small proportion of other party voters they think they can persuade.

And they continue with that when PM. They seem to entirely miss that fact that being PM, likely more than any other job, needs to be PM for the whole country. Not just their supporters.
 

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common denominator between eighty seat majority then and the Tories current polling is indeed Boris: both are function of same populist lies & stupidity. Am sure the electorate would just love to be led up the same path again. But twice bitten markets and Brexit ruined economy wont allow any of that for a generation.
He'll be back, even if it takes a generation.
It was thought his hero's (Churchill) political career was over after the Dardanelles (Crimea??) fiasco.. (admittedly, as much Churchill took public blame, he was exonerated years later with Kitchener put in breech). Churchill went to trenches in France to redeem favour. (he also thought it political career ending)
Perhaps we could organise same for BJ.??? A spell fighting in Ukraine would surely help his tarnished rep.
In seriousness, Tories might see it as you do, but he's still, even now, their best option. Suspect he, s been dissuaded from standing as there are still party gate indiscretions surfacing. When that's blown over, they will welcome him back. Next GE??
 
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Perhaps we could organise same for BJ.???
BJ is OK in good times, like London winning the Olympics and our athletes won a record number of medals. He never will be up to the task in bad times. That's not why his hero is remembered.
There was a clip on the BBC the other day. BJ was then foreign secretary. The view of the interviewee was that he did not like to do much work (no surprise there) and his office was disorganised, then JH replaced him. Totally the opposite. Basically, the idiotic membership voted for the wrong man. No wonder why the tory apparachiks don't want a repeat.
 

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Are there sufficient guests to need more than a few sarnies on the kitchen table?
The Tory party seems full of enthusiastic quaffers, they love any opportunity for quaffing. I bet those parties were well attended for that vacuous good time girl. The wine cellar needed depletion, obvs.
 
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BJ is OK in good times, like London winning the Olympics and our athletes won a record number of medals. He never will be up to the task in bad times. That's not why his hero is remembered.
There was a clip on the BBC the other day. BJ was then foreign secretary. The view of the interviewee was that he did not like to do much work (no surprise there) and his office was disorganised, then JH replaced him. Totally the opposite. Basically, the idiotic membership voted for the wrong man. No wonder why the tory apparachiks don't want a repeat.
They won't have a choice. The PM candidate pot is empty. They over exhausted it with Truss. (Actually with May) Sunak has to fail. Come next GE party gate will be a distant memory and all they care about is holding onto power. Agreed, nobody on here would vote for BJ but suspect that has almost always been case. It's not that long to next GE who can they build up for PM?? All speculative but my bet would be Boris.
 

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They won't have a choice. The PM candidate pot is empty. They over exhausted it with Truss. (Actually with May) Sunak has to fail. Come next GE party gate will be a distant memory and all they care about is holding onto power. Agreed, nobody on here would vote for BJ but suspect that has almost always been case. It's not that long to next GE who can they build up for PM?? All speculative but my bet would be Boris.
Perhaps, but that overlook the fact that the conservative party is ready to implode, to stop becoming official opposition. Brexit may have been a blunder too far, even with a manipulable electorate like ours. Churchill's political career did not end well.
OTOH Truss is back with that old election winner ("taking advantage of brexit freedoms by cutting taxes on the wealthy")
Now there is a reborn post brexit tory leader for the future if I ever saw one..
 
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I told you all Sunak was sneaky - PM without a single vote cast. Now THAT is sneaky!

He has devious eyes...
 
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It's not that long to next GE who can they build up for PM??
Sunak of course.
Inflation is projected to peak before Christmas then rapidly drops to around 5% in March/April.
Gas price drops rapidly now. Government support for energy will be targetted to the poorest from April for 6 more months, Pound will quickly rise.
Sunak will narrow the deficit (Labour lead) may be down to sub 10% then call an election in May.

 
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Sunak will narrow the deficit (Labour lead) may be down to sub 10% then call an election in May.
There is no "eek" reaction available to mark scary posts like yours with.

This May is too soon for memories of the Trusterfucking happening to fade methinks. No matter how promising the polls look for the Tories, slinging mud at that vulnerability will stick quite readily. Too soon, sneaky Sunak will strike when you least expect.
 

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Sunak stuck his toungue out about 20 times during his speech, proving that David Ike is right - they are all lizards wearing human bodysuits.
 
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Heading towards a million, which may or may not draw more attention. "Million" tends to. In about 30 days at this slowing rate...

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A cabinet of munchkins will remain, after the embarrassingly tall are axed. They might all fit into a small cabinet.
 
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I fully expect Sneaky Sunak to register in the India "The East England Company" and strip this country of all it's resources. Mogg was in the way...
 

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