Just as the UK were keen to leave the EU's intended single country of Europe in 2016.
Just like Britain with its Empire, though that brutally went on for centuries, not just a few decades.
Isn't it amazing how short and convenient memories are?
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Isn't it amazing how short and convenient memories are?
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The UK chose to join the EU.
That cannot be said of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania with respect to the USSR.
good thing, capital & investment fleeing the country (investors unlike fatheads that vote for brexit, boris & thereby truss have discretion) - better we have crisis sooner than wait for tories to do more irreversible damage
Ironic isn't it, they said it was Corbyn who would wreck the country by borrowing for expansion. Yet another of his policies they've adopted.
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We need to get them out of office ASAP. I'd even rather have Cameron and Osborne back, at least they exercised fiscal restraint.
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big difference, LT and KK borrow to cut taxes, not for expansion.
£2 billions is what it costs the Treasury to remove the 45% tax band for the top 1% of taxpayers while basic rate taxpayers get 1% tax giveaway.
Lots of people questioning the basic arithmetic there and suggest nearer three times that cost.
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But Truss believes her tax cuts will stimulate expansion.
More an act of faith than fact I fear.
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I watched Lord Bilimoria of Cobra Beer fame was explaining the logic behind the decisions of LT's government on BBC Newscast. He is absolutely delighted with the mini budget.
Huge transfer of tax money to big businesses.
We will not borrow to fund day-to-day
spending, but will invest thoughtfully
and responsibly in infrastructure right
across our country in order to increase
productivity and wages. Our fiscal rules
mean that public sector net investment
will not average more than 3 per cent of
GDP, and that if debt interest reaches 6
per cent of revenue, we will reassess our
plans to keep debt under control.
This means that debt will be lower at
the end of the Parliament – rather than
spiralling out of control under Labour.
And we will use this investment prudently
and strategically to level up every part of
the United Kingdom, while strengthening
the ties that bind it together.
Anyone recognise that?
spending, but will invest thoughtfully
and responsibly in infrastructure right
across our country in order to increase
productivity and wages. Our fiscal rules
mean that public sector net investment
will not average more than 3 per cent of
GDP, and that if debt interest reaches 6
per cent of revenue, we will reassess our
plans to keep debt under control.
This means that debt will be lower at
the end of the Parliament – rather than
spiralling out of control under Labour.
And we will use this investment prudently
and strategically to level up every part of
the United Kingdom, while strengthening
the ties that bind it together.
Anyone recognise that?
Not quite. Corbyn wanted to borrow to invest for the good of many. These clowns are borrowing to give the money to people who don’t really need it.
£100 extra isn’t going to touch the sides for a low earner. £50K extra for a million pound earner won’t find its way back into the economy. People with that sort of money don’t need the £50K, so are unlikely to spend it. The policy is a certain failure at both ends of the pay scale.
Quasi Coat-Hanger is an ass-hole. Give me Corbyn’s plan if I’m forced to choose, it would have stood a better chance of working. Coat-hanger will fail and will leave irreparable damage.
No I'm not, I have always regarded the USA as the world's biggest parasite nation, that bled this country white, before belatedly joining WW1 to protect it's debtors rather than lose the repayments, and in the case of WW2 they only joined in because they got their backside well and truly handed to them at Pearl Harbour, before which they did very well out of us.
Blinkered? you have to be joking!
He's unlikely to understand that!I've just sent my (tory) MP an email wishing him well in his new job.
(Smiley added but that is literally what I said.)
Constituency changes round here would probably result in him not being MP here anyway. And he has muttered about doing something else.
He is on the ball and I think he will understand - I did say a couple of other things in the email which would have pointed him in the direction of getting it.
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So why are you so forgiving of their actions since 1991, including being directly responsible for bring the two thugs Yeltsin and therefore Putin into power, then the war against Georgia and all the actions against Ukraine.
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I've previously explained this more than once and at length. In brief:
The Duma desiring peace and an end to the cold war appointed known moderate dove Gorbachov as President, due to knowing his long arguing for this course.
Gorbachov set this in motion by a gradual transition to avoid the chaos of a sudden change, but Yeltsin favoured an abrupt change.
Seeing their chance and distrusting Gorbachov's declared communism, the CIA assisted Yeltsin to stir up the mob by lying that Gorbachov was trying to hold up or prevent the change.
It proved easy to incite a mob which rapidly went completely out of control, even launching an attack on the parliament building with a field gun. Sickened by this, Gorbachov resigned, leaving Yeltsin able to take over.
Under Yeltsin Russia predictably descended into total civil chaos with a breakdown of all law and order, allowing the Oligarchs to seize the country's businesses.
Yeltsin had used KGB agent Putin to do some dirty work for him and with that done appointed him head of the KGB. Then in desperate need of a prime minister to sort out the mess he'd made of Russia, he further appointed Putin to that post.
With Yeltsin's alcoholism wrecking his health and making it impossible for him to carry on, he nominated Putin as his successor as president.
Putin got a grip of the oligarchs and used their money to quickly restore order, then loyal to the fundamental objective of his boss, he too opened up to the west, even suggesting Russia could join the EU. But he was snubbed, by the USA in particular, once again out of their hatred of communism and Putin having once been so integral a part of that.
Worse still, the USA embarked on a campaign to expand NATO, Russia's enemy, right up to Russia's borders by actions in both Georgia and Ukraine.
So from beginning to end the USA both blocked Russia from becoming a peaceful part of the world and were instrumental in putting in place the mess we have now.
Take the USA out of the above equation and there would never have been a war in Georgia, there would never have been the present war in Ukraine or any of the actions leading up to it.
OG is right, the USA is a parasite nation, in addition to being an international terrorist nation. We will never have peace unless we isolate them and strip them of influence.
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