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True - but a process of open declarations of how they voted, and applied statistics/logic, should produce a list with some certaints and quite a lot of very likelies (whichever way) - with further revision as more information drips out.
maybe. There were 27 MPs that went public before the vote, 148 voted against BJ so it's difficult to extrapolate their future strategy from what they say on TV.
 
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A full HoC confidence vote - with the same people voting the same way, and assuming all non-tory MPs have no confidence, would see Johnson out with fewer than a third of the votes. (I'm counting Sinn Fein as non-tory despite their non-voting.)

Would the tory MPs vote as they did yesterday? Probably not as it would surely result in a GE.
 
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A full HoC confidence vote - with the same people voting the same way, and assuming all non-tory MPs have no confidence, would see Johnson out with fewer than a third of the votes. (I'm counting Sinn Fein as non-tory despite their non-voting.)

Would the tory MPs vote as they did yesterday? Probably not as it would surely result in a GE.
If the tories have someone else representing them at the next GE, that person will have to make himself or herself known with a new range of core policies: solve the brexit deal by aligning our product safety standards with the EUs, delay the National Insurance contribution increases, control prices of life essentials such as public transport, petrol, gas and electricity, windfall tax etc.
If any of these ideas becomes popular, BJ would just steal their ideas though.
The only way is for the backbenchers to change the rules to reduce the time between confidence votes to 6 months.
 
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new range of core policies: solve the brexit deal by aligning our product safety standards with the EUs, delay the National Insurance contribution increases, control prices of life essentials such as public transport, petrol, gas and electricity, windfall tax etc.
Plus re-establish the milk marketing board and get rid of prescription charges, together with what they've already stolen from Labour, you'd have a traditional Labour manifesto from long, long ago.

Add 83% capital gains tax and 66% purchase tax on luxury goods (everything that ordinary people don't buy) and Sir Stafford Cripps as Chancellor of the Exchequer would live again. ;)
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If the tories have someone else representing them at the next GE, that person will have to make himself or herself known with a new range of core policies: solve the brexit deal by aligning our product safety standards with the EUs, delay the National Insurance contribution increases, control prices of life essentials such as public transport, petrol, gas and electricity, windfall tax etc.
If any of these ideas becomes popular, BJ would just steal their ideas though.
The only way is for the backbenchers to change the rules to reduce the time between confidence votes to 6 months.
Bridgend, wragg, harper - awful lot of far right, extreme brexiteers amongst those who try to depose him. Much more likely they object to his pseudo labour attempts to buy off the electorate and lurch much further to the right I think.
 
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get rid of prescription charges,
Catch up with the devolved nations! Failing that:

If prescription charges are deemed appropriate (which they have been, so far, in England);
And, if there is a pre-payment certificate option available (which there is);
Then I'd rather see the two merged.

Each time you pay for a prescription that automatically counts as one point towards an annual prepayment certificate. Once you hit a certain number, that gives you the next three months/year without further charges.

A gross unfairness is that you cannot make a rational decision to go the prepayment route because you cannot know how many prescriptions you will need. And widespread implementation of 28-day prescribing frequently results in two or three being needed simply to conform to an arbitrary rule. If you are prescribed one medicine but it either doesn't work or you don't tolerate it, and you get an alternative, you are effectively penalised by another charge. And on and on.

Of course, someone who is reasonably well off might make a decision to get a certificate every year as a form of insurance.
 
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British Virgin Islands: UK decides against direct rule of territory
The UK has decided not to impose direct rule on the British Virgin Islands, despite a report finding gross failures of governance in the territory.
The review said the BVI's constitution should be suspended and its government dissolved amid corruption concerns.

The idea that this misbegotten bunch of incompetent, narcissistic, corrupt, self-serving nonentities could even consider being able to rule another country defies belief. Well, to anyone other than those individuals themselves.

The hypocrisy of alleging corruption!
 
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EMBOLDENED Boris Johnson will cut bills left, right and centre in his most radical move yet to ease the cost-of-living crisis.
Express front page 9th June 2022.

Yet more lies. The reason is to avoid getting kicked out - not for you, me or anyone else. And I don't believe he can cut all our bills other than by major improvements to the economy and addressing the other issues the world is facing.

Handing out a thousand to everyone would end up doing next to nothing in the longer term and might even make things worse.
 
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If this article represents the reality, Russia - more particularly Russian citizens - seem to be starting to hit a mass of serious problems.

Even if Ukraine were sorted out tomorrow, and sanctions lifted, the impact could continue for years. I can imagine international flying being hit by things like the requirements for detailed maintenance logs. If you are transplanting parts - there could be lots of issues. Like using not-quite the approved parts (even if compatible.) Lack of proper kits so extra parts like gaskets not being included - hence maybe re-used. The rest of the world might take sokme time to be convinced Russian aircraft should be allowed to fly.

‘The return of banditry’: Russian car industry buckles under sanctions
Prices have spiralled out control since invasion of Ukraine as market struggles to adapt
 
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If this article represents the reality, Russia - more particularly Russian citizens - seem to be starting to hit a mass of serious problems.

Even if Ukraine were sorted out tomorrow, and sanctions lifted, the impact could continue for years. I can imagine international flying being hit by things like the requirements for detailed maintenance logs. If you are transplanting parts - there could be lots of issues. Like using not-quite the approved parts (even if compatible.) Lack of proper kits so extra parts like gaskets not being included - hence maybe re-used. The rest of the world might take sokme time to be convinced Russian aircraft should be allowed to fly.

‘The return of banditry’: Russian car industry buckles under sanctions
Prices have spiralled out control since invasion of Ukraine as market struggles to adapt
Propaganda.

The problem is simply that Autovaz, the modern Lada producer, made themselves too dependent on Renault for certain parts.

But it's an easily soluble problem for a big advanced engineering country like Russia. Little Cuba has managed to keep American cars running for over half a century under the fiercest of sanctions.

Russia's smartest move now would be to link instead with China's and India's advanced auto manufacturing industries, both of them allies who buy a lot from Russia.
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Little Cuba has managed to keep American cars running for over half a century under the fiercest of sanctions.
But ancient USA automobiles are, technologically, simple and way behind current technology.

Like antilock braking systems. (Even if you abandon the actual antilock feature, modern braking systems are designed around them.)

Maintenance of existing vehicles becomes difficult. (I know my car had multiple apparent failures due to one wheel sensor failing. Including ABS and other systems. No - it's not Russian!)
 

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But ancient USA automobiles are, technologically, simple and way behind current technology.

Like antilock braking systems. (Even if you abandon the actual antilock feature, modern braking systems are designed around them.)

Maintenance of existing vehicles becomes difficult. (I know my car had multiple apparent failures due to one wheel sensor failing. Including ABS and other systems. No - it's not Russian!)
Do you really think the country that led in the space race systems and is still far ahead in their reliability cannot cope with such relatively simple problems?

And as I said, switching to their allies China and India gives them all they need in automotive terms, including the lead in e-vehicles.

As said such stories are propaganda. People in the West are really suffering severely from the implications of th Ukraine war and starting to question why, when it's nothing to do with us. Hence the propaganda desperately trying to convince that Russians are suffering far worse.
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If this article represents the reality, Russia - more particularly Russian citizens - seem to be starting to hit a mass of serious problems.

Even if Ukraine were sorted out tomorrow, and sanctions lifted, the impact could continue for years. I can imagine international flying being hit by things like the requirements for detailed maintenance logs. If you are transplanting parts - there could be lots of issues. Like using not-quite the approved parts (even if compatible.) Lack of proper kits so extra parts like gaskets not being included - hence maybe re-used. The rest of the world might take sokme time to be convinced Russian aircraft should be allowed to fly.

‘The return of banditry’: Russian car industry buckles under sanctions
Prices have spiralled out control since invasion of Ukraine as market struggles to adapt
But they are not Russian aircraft!!!. A significant number are Irish owned and leased to Russian airlines. but once sanctions came in, those within the russian airspace were confiscated and registered on the Russian lists
 

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But they are not Russian aircraft!!!. A significant number are Irish owned and leased to Russian airlines. but once sanctions came in, those within the russian airspace were confiscated and registered on the Russian lists
Really doesn't matter who actually owns them from the point of view of maintenance.

If they are not being maintained according to proper manufacturers' documentation, it might be difficult to establish future airworthiness.
 
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Really doesn't matter who actually owns them from the point of view of maintenance.

If they are not being maintained according to proper manufacturers' documentation, it might be difficult to establish future airworthiness.
Aeroflot and any other Russian flights are now banned from our western airports anyway, so it isn't anything likely to trouble them much for a while.

And don't forget that their ally China not only flies 737s, they build them under licence too, so no problem getting spares.
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Do you really think the country that led in the space race systems and is still far ahead in their reliability cannot cope with such relatively simple problems?

And as I said, switching to their allies China and India gives them all they need in automotive terms, including the lead in e-vehicles.

As said such stories are propaganda. People in the West are really suffering severely from the implications of th Ukraine war and starting to question why, when it's nothing to do with us. Hence the propaganda desperately trying to convince that Russians are suffering far worse.
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Of course there is propaganda in play, but there are other items in play also. much of Russian Advanced industry was not in Russia it was distributed around the USSR .
 
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much of Russian Advanced industry was not in Russia it was distributed around the USSR .
Not very relevant for consumer goods though. Their mistake was making themselves dependent on the West for some consumer goods. They partly learnt that after acquiring Crimea but soon offset those western sanctions with their own production. I've no doubt they'll manage ok again, particularly with their access to trade with China and India.

Many in the west are already hurting far more than they are, a difference that is more likely to increase rather than decrease.

Russia is more self sufficient on the essentials than any other, even more so now following the Ukraine war.
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