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No need to declare captured Russian tanks, other equipment of invaders as income – NAPC

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Ukraine's National Agency for the Protection against Corruption (NAPC) has declared that captured Russian tanks and other equipment are not subject to declaration.
"Have you captured a Russian tank or armored personnel carrier and are worried about how to declare it? Keep calm and continue to defend the Motherland! There is no need to declare the captured Russian tanks and other equipment, because the cost of this ... does not exceed 100 living wages (UAH 248,100)," NAPC's press service said.
Also, there is no need in this case to submit reports of significant changes in property status within 10 days.
 
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The world is so different now. Then there were standard compasses with maybe 5 degrees of accuracy, and location was by triangulation from a few Radio frequencies and directional antennas So blackouts made sense. Now with GPS , accuracy is to a few metres. If anything the bright lights assist the defender. Raiders would be using cover of dark and night vision specs. Lights mean that the defenders can see them. If you are crouched and with a sea of lights behind you and your attacker is coming at you from the dark they cannot see you in the glare, and you can see thrm.
While I generally agree with your reply (And Flecc's previously). I still feel fighting in the dark in your own backyard is a better prospect especially considering the assertions that many of the Russian enemy are conscripts who probably have never used much of the equipment in anger before. I'd be ripping out all the road and route street furniture as well. Again modern equipment would largely nullify this but in desperate times every little helps.

Gotta get back to work before the companies internet police get me. I'll catch up tonight. :)

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I read that some of the Russian ships which had been intended to go to the Black Sea were not assigned to a Black Sea port - hence could be blocked by Turkey.
Flecc.. The significant difference is that the UN Council has accepted that there is a War, with Russia being one of the Belligerents and that changes the rules of passage
Of course, I'd already posted that earlier.

But again as I posted earlier twice, Turkey cannot and will not block Russian southern fleet ships returning to their southern fleet base, and there being a war does not change that, as Turkey has confirmed.

And again as I've posted before, being unable to exit the Black Sea currently makes no difference. Russia's sea access to Ukraine is entirely in the Black Sea where their warships are, and also in the Azov Sea which Russia entirely controls.
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If I were Putin, I'd consider assassination my single biggest threat. Whether by physical, chemical, radio-active element, or other means. Polonium 210 would seem a singularly appropriate weapon.
Or even more appropriately Dioxin, used in 2004 to poison Ukraine's presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko.

Doubly appropriate since dioxin is a component of the Agent Orange defoliant so extensively used by the USA in the Vietman war.
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No need to declare captured Russian tanks, other equipment of invaders as income – NAPC

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Ukraine's National Agency for the Protection against Corruption (NAPC) has declared that captured Russian tanks and other equipment are not subject to declaration.
"Have you captured a Russian tank or armored personnel carrier and are worried about how to declare it? Keep calm and continue to defend the Motherland! There is no need to declare the captured Russian tanks and other equipment, because the cost of this ... does not exceed 100 living wages (UAH 248,100)," NAPC's press service said.
Also, there is no need in this case to submit reports of significant changes in property status within 10 days.
Cheeky !. And very clever. . If it were delivered on 1st April I would have chuckled.
 
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The Western notion that Russia is aiming to partition Ukraine leaving a free Western half may be a big mistake.

With the whole city of Kherson now taken and all the surrounding towns, the Russian land forces are very close to Ukraine's vital port of Odessa. Meanwhile on sea Russian warships have closed in on Odessa's port.

If Odessa is taken with Mariupol now falling and the Azov Sea entirely under Russian control, Ukraine becomes a landlocked country if remaining independent. That would cripple them.

Not at all what the West anticipated when the war began and once again demonstrating Putin should never be underestimated.

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Are we seeing the founding of a Dead Oligarchs' Society?

This amused me, his mother outlives him and may be thinking her dream is coming true with current events:

"His mother, who the Sun reported lived in a neighbouring apartment in his villa and was at home when his body was found, was said to have insisted on keeping her Soviet ID in a safe. “She strongly believes communists will be back to Russia and Ukraine. Meanwhile, she’s enjoying modest spending of her capitalist son’s money … And we are praying her dream never comes true,” Watford told the Sunday Times."
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Are we seeing the founding of a Dead Oligarchs' Society?
The other reason it amused me was it reminded me of a character from the TV comedy series "To the Manor Born* in which class concious Audrey fforbes-Hamilton was force to sell her estate to wealthy Richard de Vere, whose origins were eastern European.

deVere's mother was always on about "the old country" and disapproved of her son's capitalist ways, making me think Watford's mother is probably a clone of that character. :)
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The other reason it amused me was it reminded me of a character from the TV comedy series "To the Manor Born* in which class concious Audrey fforbes-Hamilton was force to sell her estate to wealthy Richard de Vere, whose origins were eastern European.

deVere's mother was always on about "the old country" and disapproved of her son's capitalist ways, making me think Watford's mother is probably a clone of that character. :)
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I'd certainly not be claiming the death was not suspicious. Maybe they will come to that conclusion, but my first thoughts would be that any oligarchs' deaths need to be considered suspicious until considerable effort has proved otherwise. (Or a conscious decision has been made not to look.)
 
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There will be a huge net profit since he's written off the massive loans he's made to the club, so no payback from the probable 2 billion the club will sell for.

And yes, the payments are for ALL victims of the war, and since it will be this UK based charitable foundation making them, I think we should have a good chance of fairness.
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A bit more has been found out - but not enough for full clarity.

Roman Abramovich’s funds for war victims will not only go to Ukrainians
  • Chelsea owner has pledged to help ‘all victims of the war’
  • Sources leave open possibility of assistance for Russians
 
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I'd certainly not be claiming the death was not suspicious. Maybe they will come to that conclusion, but my first thoughts would be that any oligarchs' deaths need to be considered suspicious until considerable effort has proved otherwise. (Or a conscious decision has been made not to look.)
The police must have had some reason for saying they didnt think it was suspicious, but I'm sure it will be quietly looked into, maybe with a post mortem.
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The police must have had some reason for saying they didnt think it was suspicious, but I'm sure it will be quietly looked into, maybe with a post mortem.
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Found hanging in the garage is both entirely possible - and feasible - and could be extremely sinister.

I think a PM is inevitable - but how comprehensive? Full radiation, in depth toxicology, and so on.

Some people could even have been lured into co-operating - if you kill yourself, we'll let your family live.
 
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A bit more has been found out - but not enough for full clarity.

Roman Abramovich’s funds for war victims will not only go to Ukrainians
  • Chelsea owner has pledged to help ‘all victims of the war’
  • Sources leave open possibility of assistance for Russians
Of course it won't, as I posted Roman said it was specifically for ALL victims, that was always clear. I see nothing wrong in that, soldiers are always victims in war on any side since they dont have the option to say no.

Some of ours tried to say no in WW1 and were shot dead by us. I doubt the Russians would have been more gentle in dealing with refusniks. Nor the Ukrainans who are refusing to let those of 18 or more to leave, insisting they fight. What chance for conscientious objectors?
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Of course it won't, as I posted Roman said it was specifically for ALL victims, that was always clear. I see nothing wrong in that, soldiers are always victims in war on any side since they dont have the option to say no.

Some of ours tried to say no in WW1 and were shot dead by us. I doubt the Russians would have been more gentle in dealing with refusniks. Nor the Ukrainans who are refusing to let those of 18 or more to leave, insisting they fight. What chance for conscientious objectors?
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I did NOT, and do not, object to Russians being helped.
 

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Found hanging in the garage is both entirely possible - and feasible - and could be extremely sinister.

I think a PM is inevitable - but how comprehensive? Full radiation, in depth toxicology, and so on.

Some people could even have been lured into co-operating - if you kill yourself, we'll let your family live.
It's Ben Wallace gone full Tonto! :oops: Or a Putin operative in his security detail or staff, making killings look natural is something taught. Like a frog slowly being boiled as water temperture rises imperceptably, the Russian people will accept the loss of any sense of freedom gained over the past few decades, as the reborn USSR takes it's choke hold. Their only hope is massive passive resistance. Pussy Riots will be no more

 

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This is quite a big and welcomed action from China.
Perhaps, at some point, China will see how heavily their sales of, well everything, are hit. Obviously, many Russians will either buy immediately (while they still have roubles with some value) or never.

And the economic impact on the rest of the world will also reduce sales.
 

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