Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Wouldn't in-depth research have been more satisfying?
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And round these parts it could be a bit of an extreme sport at times.
I remember being given some sage advice by the personnel manager on my first day at work as he toured me round the office and noted my interest in all the attractive girls is the filing department.
"Don't think that just because you play scrum half they won't have you for Breakfast lad!"
He was right (need I elaborate?):eek:
 
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Do you think they will have you back? Didn't work too well the first time around, you sent Farage as MEP...
I think the EU needs to reform a fair bit first.
The direction of the reform (of the EU) can only bring the EU nearer to a post brexit UK.
It's not an accident that parliament will support triggering A50.
As more people understand the issues better, parliament must have seen brexit a viable project.
 

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"Don't think that just because you play scrum half they won't have you for Breakfast lad!"
He was right (need I elaborate?):eek:
No need to elaborate. Many decades ago our service engineers had to go to a machine in a large biscuit factory with huge numbers of women in the area. They were all terrified of getting that call out, knowing how they would be jumped on at arrival. :eek:
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oldgroaner

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I think the EU needs to reform a fair bit first.
The direction of the reform (of the EU) can only bring the EU nearer to a post brexit UK.
It's not an accident that parliament will support triggering A50.
As more people understand the issues better, parliament must have seen brexit a viable project.
Now you are being silly as it isn't, the blithering idiots are simply in a "more than my job's worth state of mind over opposing it!"
 

oldgroaner

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No need to elaborate. Many decades ago our service engineers had to go to a machine in a large biscuit factory with huge numbers of women in the area. They were all terrified of getting that call out, knowing how they would be jumped on at arrival. :eek:
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I was a Service Engineer, still bear the scars...
We used to have a saying
There are old and there are bold Service Engineers
But there aren't many Old and Bold ones.:cool:
 
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tillson

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Imaginative as usual as I do not approve of rioting and even less of protests being disrupted by right wing rabble.
Your view is typically right wing, I don't understand something so it must be suppressed.
There have been protests here already, where were the riots you go on about?
In your imagination?
I think it was Kudos who indicated that Trump's visit may incite rioting. I was responding to that. Keep up.

Oh and I do understand riots and the affect it has on people. First hand understanding. Not something I've read in a left wing lunatic mag.
 

oldgroaner

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I think it was Kudos who indicated that Trump's visit may incite rioting. I was responding to that. Keep up.

Oh and I do understand riots and the affect it has on people. First hand understanding. Not something I've read in a left wing lunatic mag.
Oh, so it was a Right wing lunatic rag then?
plenty of those going round
 
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oldgroaner

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Donald Trump's team says 5-year-old boy was 'handcuffed and held' because he was a 'security threat' to the USA
Press secretary Sean Spicer said: “To assume that just because of someone’s age and gender that they don’t pose a threat would be misguided and wrong."

The kid was born in America his mother is iranian.
 
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tillson

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Now you are being silly as it isn't, the blithering idiots are simply in a "more than my job's worth state of mind over opposing it!"
The wonderful effect of Brexit is that no matter how bad it comes out there are 17 million Brits who wont complain about it....they could be starving but they sure as hell wont complain.
I must say that I was worried about all the price rises but my businesses have never done so well.....if this is Brexit lets have some more,I will be very pleased to say that I was wrong.
Just dont know where everyone is finding the money from?
KudosDave
I've not seen any slow down in spending in my business either. It's a wonderful thing.
 
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oldgroaner

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I always wondered whether Boris Johnson is really as daft as he seems, and stumbled upon his IQ results in this paragraph
"Perhaps the most surprising of these is Boris Johnson, who has an IQ of 79, a result considered to be ‘below average.’ To give you an idea of scale, the majority of people score just above or below 100. A person who marks 115 – 130 is considered ‘highly intelligent’

And yet this numbskull led the leave the EU campaign from the front, outsmarting 17,410,742 Voters
He was probably too dumb to even know he was lying!

Think about that A Person with an IQ of 79 misled 17,419,742 voters!

Halleluya!


Ha, ha, ha, ha, now that is truly Hilarious! :D:D:D:D
Inspirational quote of the day
"“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
Groucho Marx
 
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oldgroaner

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I've not seen any slow down in spending in my business either. It's a wonderful thing.
"passing the 64th floor at 120 plus mph on the way down and no problems so far!"

Buzz lightyear leaps off the table; "To infinity and Beyond!" he cries

Woody to Buzz light Year;" That's not flying, it's falling with style!
 

tillson

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No he is not, he is observing a short term knee jerk reaction of people spending up while they still can and worrying about the consequences later.
Actually that pretty much sums up the attitude of the average Brexit voter, no thought for the future worth mentioning.
Even the Daily Mail of all rags noted this;
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British households are nursing a ‘New Year debt hangover’ after embarking on the biggest borrowing binge in a decade in the run up to Christmas.

Families borrowed £1.5billion on loans and credit cards in November, according to figures published by the Bank of England yesterday.

Borrowing surged by 8.3 per cent over the year, the sharpest rise since February 2006 – two years before the financial crisis hit.
City watchdog the Financial Conduct Authority is investigating the £150billion credit card market amid concerns that nine million vulnerable customers are trapped in a spiral of debt.

It is also investigating cards issued with low credit limits of a couple of hundred pounds and high interest rates, which have been dubbed ‘payday loans with plastic’.

Around 30 million consumers, or 60 per cent of the adult population, hold at least one credit card.


Like Brexit this is another Bubble that will burst.

People spending money that they don't have has been going on long before the word BREXIT was invented. You can't pin that one on leaving the EU. You really are quite obsessed and I'm worried about you.

People overindulging on new cars, holidays and houses that they can't afford is a problem that they are going to have to deal with. Recklessness with personal finance will apply in equal measure to both those who voted for BREXIT and those who voted to remain.

Your pitiful attempt to imply that personal debt is the exclusive preserve of the BREXIT voter is ridiculous.
 

tillson

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"passing the 64th floor at 120 plus mph on the way down and no problems so far!"

Buzz lightyear leaps off the table; "To infinity and Beyond!" he cries

Woody to Buzz light Year;" That's not flying, it's falling with style!
Just stating what I am seeing. Have you any current business experience or are you quoting more rubbish from left wing mags?
 

oldgroaner

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People spending money that they don't have has been going on long before the word BREXIT was invented. You can't pin that one on leaving the EU. You really are quite obsessed and I'm worried about you.

People overindulging on new cars, holidays and houses that they can't afford is a problem that they are going to have to deal with. Recklessness with personal finance will apply in equal measure to both those who voted for BREXIT and those who voted to remain.

Your pitiful attempt to imply that personal debt is the exclusive preserve of the BREXIT voter is ridiculous.
No it's a natural reaction from people who realise the good times are about to end to have a spree.
Even you should be able to understand that reaction
 

oldgroaner

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Just stating what I am seeing. Have you any current business experience or are you quoting more rubbish from left wing mags?
Hell tillson I've been retired 12 years so I have to give the answer no to "Any current business experience"
I merely look at what is happening without wearing Brexit Goggles as you do
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Now's your big chance, give me some pious spouting about current business experience, but may I remind you that you said you are an employee of someone else?

Which of your versions is true?
Working man
Giant of Capitalism and owner of a business?

Will the real tillson step forward please?

And do cheer up, your hearts in the right place, No comment on the rest, mind.
 

tillson

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No it's a natural reaction from people who realise the good times are about to end to have a spree.
Even you should be able to understand that reaction
No. Personal debt created by overindulgence has been climbing for over a decade. These people are idiots and the day of reckoning is approaching whether we stay in or leave the EU.

Some debt is as a result of misfortune or circumstances beyond their control. These people need a leg up, regardless of whether we remain in or leave the EU.
 

oldgroaner

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No. Personal debt created by overindulgence has been climbing for over a decade. These people are idiots and the day of reckoning is approaching whether we stay in or leave the EU.

Some debt is as a result of misfortune or circumstances beyond their control. These people need a leg up, regardless of whether we remain in or leave the EU.
That's better and I happily agree with that, sorry about teasing you, but when you get carried away it's hard to resist, so I don't.

Being mad I'm allowed to, remember?
 

tillson

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Hell tillson I've been retired 12 years so I have to give the answer no to "Any current business experience"
I merely look at what is happening without wearing Brexit Goggles as you do
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Now's your big chance, give me some pious spouting about current business experience, but may I remind you that you said you are an employee of someone else?

Which of your versions is true?
Working man
Giant of Capitalism and owner of a business?

Will the real tillson step forward please?

And do cheer up, your hearts in the right place, No comment on the rest, mind.

If you look back at my posts you will find that I have said in the past that I run a business in addition to my salaried employment. Which I still do.

My salaried employment is aircrew and my business concerns aircraft maintenance and airworthiness services. Before flying, I worked in aero engine development for Rolls Royce. At my own expense I became licence aircraft engineer which enables me to provide the service of my business.

The business has enabled me to invest all of my salaried income for over a decade, which forms part of my early retirement plan.
 
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