Brexit, for once some facts.

[guerney]

Once one is living healthily the determinant of one's lifespan is purely one's genetic inheritance. I'm fortunate in having had an Italian father from a long lived family, the Italians notably having a very low rate of heart disease, but his family having a high rate of cancer in old age ending their lives. But I'm unfortunate in having had an Anglo-Scottish mother from relatively short lived family, also with the occasional old age cancer problem and the high rate of heart disease that Scotland is notorious for.

How oddly deterministic! Aren't a lot of Scottish of Viking origin ie Nordic? Rape, pillag, rape, enslavement, trade, more rape etc. etc. Nordic genes are much coveted, are they not? I believe the general medical consensus regarding the shortened lifespan of the Scots is down to their copious gluggage of Ironbru and alcohol, as well as enthusiastic indulgence of deep fried Mars bars. Diet has a bigger role than you think! Meat in particular should be eaten just once or twice a week, to keep heme iron to a minimum... if you have any heart disease(s):

Iron consumption can increase risk for heart disease, study shows

The link between red meat consumption and heart disease has been bolstered by a finding that makes a strong association between heme iron, found only in meat, and potentially deadly coronary heart disease. The study found that heme iron consumption increased the risk for coronary heart disease...

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[guerney]

Combine any bean with any grain, and you have a complete amino acid chain, for the other five or six days, but people never want to change... (yes it's awful).

 

[Jesus H Christ]

The NHS will fix it with whack-a-mole medication regimes, so that lardy fatsos can continue eating crap and doing nothing; not having to change a thing... (I'm an ex-lardy fatso)(3 stones ago)(One stone left to lose).

Well done with the weight loss. As you will know only too well, it isn’t easy.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Combine any bean with any grain, and you have a complete amino acid chain, for the other six days, but people never want to change...

And the kind of pungent putrid high protein low colon detonations that guarantee the kind of social isolation one may need to stay on the forum 24 7 and avoid contracting any new variants

 

[guerney]

And the kind of pungent putrid high protein low colon detonations that guarantee the kind of social isolation one may need to stay on the forum 24 7 and avoid contracting any new variants

Not if you sprout beans - makes the undigestible, digestible. But you do have a point...




I'd rather be farty than dead! Forward thrust speeds up slow jogging

 

[oyster]

I am not attributing any morality to these figures, .. and for some reason neither does the virus . Incidentally my son, who is in the highly vulnerable category .. CF with lungs that are on their last legs, is getting his booster shot tomorrow.. his last two were AZ and tomorrow's should be Pfizer

I wasn't meaning to highlight the moral case - but he is unvaccinated due to illness. Hence, were he to get Covid, he'd be an immediate admission.

 

[guerney]

Well done with the weight loss. As you will know only too well, it isn’t easy.

Cheers! This final 11 pounds is the worst! I'll get there, now that I've reintroduced slow jogging...

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Not if you sprout beans - makes the undigestible, digestible. But you do have a point...

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I'd rather be farty than dead! Forward thrust speeds up slow jogging

Yes but oddly happiness which is a difficult transient shifting goal - comes into it. I weighed three stone more as well a few years ago. But without trying to dodge responsibility, it had a lot to do with a frustrating unsatisfactory reality (and comfort eating) I've managed to escape (at least as much through luck than any talent on my part)

 

[Jesus H Christ]

France's 4300 infections and 17 deaths today, compared to our circa 40000 infections and about 140 deaths. more or less mirrors a similar ratio. the difference in scale being, I think, down to our lax social distancing. Making us, just before winter Europe's petri dish

Hey, don’t sell us short, we’ve had 45000 new infections today! Just think of it as an idiotometer.

 

[guerney]

Hey, don’t sell us short, we’ve had 45000 new infections today! Just think of it as an idiotometer.

I felt like an idiot wearing my KN95 mask today, wandering around hospital to attend an appointment with the endochriminologist (somewhere in his body, a crime is being committed) - very few were wearing masks. On the bus, I was the only one wearing a mask.

 

[guerney]

Yes but oddly happiness which is a difficult transient shifting goal - comes into it. I weighed three stone more as well a few years ago. But without trying to dodge responsibility, it had a lot to do with a frustrating unsatisfactory reality (and comfort eating) I've managed to escape (at least as much through luck than any talent on my part)

What is this word "Happiness"? Whatever could it mean? My four stones happened very gradually... 'twas a largely unnoticed slow, greasy slide into fattinociousness - of course, food and/or alcohol is inexotricably linked with any social activity. Now that I don't have friends, I'm much healthier!

 

[flecc]

I’m not surprised by the state of our medical services. Walk down any high street and look at the state people have got themselves into. I counted the number of fat bastards I encountered along Fore Street in St Ives earlier in the week. Very roughly I would say 60 to 70% were fat knackers and across all ages. Podgy moon faced children to fat purple faced grandads who looked like they were about to pop. It’s disgusting.

It’s time we stopped beating about the bush. These people need telling that they are fat and that they are likely to die early unless they do something about it. Fat shaming is a kindness, not an insult.

Oddly enough we have little of that here now. I see it all the time on TV in other parts of the country, but around here it's increasingly rare, certainly far less than 20 or 30 years ago when grossly obese people were quite common. I hear all the media talk about this country's obese children, but around here they are mostly as skinny as rakes.

It spurs the thought that there might be some connection with our excellent Covid performance, though how excess fat could increase the risk of infection is difficult to imagine.
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[flecc]

How oddly deterministic! Aren't a lot of Scottish of Viking origin ie Nordic? Rape, pillage, rape, enslavement, trade, more rape etc. etc. Nordic genes are much coveted, are they not? I believe the general medical consensus regarding the shortened lifespan of the Scots is down to their copious gluggage of Ironbru and alcohol, as well as enthusiastic indulgence of deep fried Mars bars. Diet has a bigger role than you think! Meat in particular should be eaten just once or twice a week, to keep heme iron to a minimum... if you have any heart disease(s):

Iron consumption can increase risk for heart disease, study shows

The link between red meat consumption and heart disease has been bolstered by a finding that makes a strong association between heme iron, found only in meat, and potentially deadly coronary heart disease. The study found that heme iron consumption increased the risk for coronary heart disease...

www.sciencedaily.com

What did you think my commencing with " Once one is living healthily" meant?

It means my diet is impeccable. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be living healthily.

Of course I don't bother to spell it out every time I post on health since I'm not a diet bore, or food faddist, or vegan nutter.
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[guerney]

What did you think my commencing with " Once one is living healthily" meant?

It means my diet is impeccable. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be living healthily.

Of course I don't bother to spell it out every time I post on health since I'm not a diet bore, or food faddist, or vegan nutter.
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Each to their own, Flecc. And I'm no Vegan either - I've never even seen that planet.

 

[guerney]

Once one is living healthily the determinant of one's lifespan is purely one's genetic inheritance.

Spell it out. Why not? Otherwise it's very vague - "Healthily" is relative, isn't it? That entire set of paragraphs that this sentence was part of took some time to write, yet there's no detail about what you consider healthy.

 

[oyster]

Combine any bean with any grain, and you have a complete amino acid chain, for the other five or six days, but people never want to change... (yes it's awful).

Or quinoa.

But whether or not any of these provide the amino acid balance you need is another matter.

 

[guerney]

Or quinoa.

But whether or not any of these provide the amino acid balance you need is another matter.

Quinoa is barely "Complete" - and I agree, it's not perfect no matter what bean/nut+grain combination you go with. But beggars can't be choosers if you're near death's door... which I'm not, yet. So I still nibble on the odd dead animal, mostly fish. I have noticed that my heart pains go away when I stop eating animal protein for a few days, but that's just been my experience.

 

[Danidl]

It came under the EU's anti competion law, every form of supply has to be open to competitive bidding.

A well meaning measure which had a very big sting in the tail.
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Thanks for the reminder ... It destroyed our Telecom system , with multiple multinationals asset stripping it again and again

 

[Danidl]

I wasn't meaning to highlight the moral case - but he is unvaccinated due to illness. Hence, were he to get Covid, he'd be an immediate admission.

Fair point, ..and here he would be part of the 3% partially vaccinated.

 

[oyster]

Thanks for the reminder ... It destroyed our Telecom system , with multiple multinationals asset stripping it again and again

But it meant we could buy our own choice of handset!