Brexit, for once some facts.
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In effect the battery cost up front is an advance fuel payment since electricity is so much cheaper than ICE fuels and will be for at least a decade yet and probably permanently.
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Well, on the Leaf I drove, it wasn't the actual shapes of things, where they are, etc., it was the depressing darkness of the cabin.
I usually drive one car with an opening glass sunroof, and another with a fixed panoramic roof. I find the lightness from up above is much more pleasant. But the light trim (pale grey headling, seats, etc.) in the opening sunroof car helps by lightening the whole interior still more. The other one has too much dark but that is alleviated by the panoramic.
I can't see why black/charcoal/very dark grey need be associated with an form of EV?
My last comment wasn't about dark finishes, it was about the way the better designed EVs are evolving different shapes and proportions of both necessity and good sense. A lot of people won't like that.
As for the dark interiors, the market seems to favour them and I share the liking for a dark interior. You'd probably hate my Leaf, it's black with an all black/grey interior and dark tinted windows. Together with its silence I'd fit in nicely in a funeral procession.
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I know it wasn't - but the rest of the Leaf was pretty much OK! I'm not unhappy with many of the changes from ICE to BEV - it is very much the internal colour and light! But that Ariya combines horrible paint with a design which I find deeply unattractive - though I know why some of it is as it is. It looked a bit better inside than out.My last comment wasn't about dark finishes, it was about the way the better designed EVs are evolving different shapes and proportions of both necessity and good sense.
As for the dark interiors, the market seems to favour them and I share the liking for a dark interior. You'd probably hate my Leaf, it's black with an all black/grey interior and dark tinted windows. Together with its silence I'd fit in nicely in a funeral procession.
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Mind, today I followed a new Toyota Yaris - and the rear of that was absolutely hideous. Scarlet Flare paint (just checked what they do it in). Not very nice at all.
I think I must just be out of tune with the current wave of car fashions.
The main fashion now is crossovers of course, and it's infecting BEVs like the Ariya as well. The BEV makers like that of course since their underslung batteries make cars higher which neatly fits with crossover looks.
It's going to be long time before BEVs settle to some agreed patterns of body shapes that are both sensible and are perceived as stylish.
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? Is this a reference to
US plans third gender option on passports
The process is "technologically complex" and will take time however, the state department says.
www.bbc.co.uk
This will upset the Russians since they dont recognise gender dysphoria as being valid. I can envisage their refusing entry to anyone with a third gender passport.US plans third gender option on passports
The process is "technologically complex" and will take time however, the state department says.www.bbc.co.uk
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So George Galloway
Go back to Alloway
Don't split the vote
You odious old scrote
As now your supporters fall away.
Go back to Alloway
Don't split the vote
You odious old scrote
As now your supporters fall away.
Would the world be a better or worse place if Branson and Bezos take off on the same day and ended up racing all the way to Mars?
What I don't understand is the need for such powerful engines, lets face it you really don't need 200 plus horsepower
I generally agree. The incredible acceleration possible in (some) electric vehicles is a danger in itself. How many people when out and about, whether in a vehicle or not, mentally allow for the possibility of the vehicles they see managing 0-60 in just over two seconds? And making due allowance. We are used to vehicles starting fairly slowly and that is what our brains assume.
That acceleration also comes at a considerable cost in terms of tyre wear and must use far, far more energy that more sedate progress.
Having had Crossover types ..A Scenic and now a Peugeot 3008, Hell will freeze over before I revert to a low slung . Of course the higher profile means less sporty looks and worse MPG , but I am long beyond trading on my image, and I don't travel so fast that the air resistance is critical.
..the acceleration does not use more energy ..that is down to air resistance, what it uses is more instantaneous power
An ICE leftover, not about need, just desire.
I'm sure that once e-cars have largely taken over, the more irrational desires from the ICE era will tend to disappear in favour of different values such as silence and refinement.
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Well that is the theory of which we are all no doubt aware but in reality there are other losses incurred by higher acceleration
This is one user's take on the subject
How EV Range Is Affected By Quick Acceleration
There is as they say no such thing as a free lunch
It will be much more than £61 millions.
It cost us £180 million to keep Toyota assembling one model here, on the basis that it was a completely new model to be built. It was nothing of the sort, just our ministers being conned by Toyota changing the name of the Auris back to its original name of Corolla at the time of a model update.
Worse still is that this Nissan deal is also not a gain. For many years they employed 9000 in the Sunderland main plant, but this had dropped to just 7000 for the following reasons:
The decline in sales of the 13 year old Qashqai design, the cancellation of plans to build the new X-trail here following the brexit vote, the cancellation of plans to build their Infinity luxury range here following the brexit vote.
In fact the new scheme is only bringing 1500 jobs to Sunderland so still 500 short of what we had before Brexit. The mentions of 6000 new jobs is a con, since it's including the gains in all the parts suppliers factories and they had also lost a lot of jobs previously so again it's only making up lost ground.
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He's right, I've confirmed it on my Leaf which has better measuring facilities than that Mitsubishi i-car clone. My driving style in urban/suburban areas markedly affects the total range so clearly the incidental losses due to rapid acceleration add up.
Even on the open road a gentle driving style results in the miles per kW figure increasing.
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