Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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One of the interesting things that might fallout from these decisions is a real-world comparison of the safety and effectiveness of the various vaccines. If geographically similar areas, with clear borders, use different vaccines, who knows what we will see?
 

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They didn't have that requirement here. Just as well as it was quite cold when I had mine done.

Were you allowed to re-clothe before or after "recovery"?
Jacket, pullover, shirt.. the sun was shining but with a NE Gale.. we are coastal. The wind would skin you alive today!!.
 
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Jacket, pullover, shirt.. the sun was shining but with a NE Gale.. we are coastal. The wind would skin you alive today!!.
I used to work in Peterlee on the N.E. coast, 1 mile inland and 400 ft up. You'd see people walking along and keep walking but stop moving.

On the plus side, we had visitors during the heat wave in 1976; they decided Peterlee had the perfect climate.
 
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The failure of the press briefing idea has opened up a can of worms among the Tory vermin.
This from Conservative News
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Stratton’s departure as Press Secretary. Vote Leave is blamed – and hits back.


"When a plan goes awry in Downing Street, the response now tends to be: blame Vote Leave. And both Cain, the former Director of Communications, and Dominic Cummings were duly shouldering responsibility this morning for dreaming up an arrangement that would have exposed Stratton to cruelly probing, sadistically-crafted questions.

Translated; Johnson took fright that instead of preaching to the converted, it might have turned out to be exposing his blunders, and sycophantic stooges to the public via a possibly not too compliant media
 
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Notice today we have Starmer calling for an investigation into the texting between Dyson and Johnson yet on same day a comment reported from shadow business secretary below..
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Typifies Labour . Firstly bringing it up in first place and then a disjointed response from party.
The very nature of encouraging workers, scientists etc to work in UK from anywhere (especially Singapore) would be to offer at least comparable tax regimes. I, d expect the PM to be able to "fix" this. (we have no idea his reasoning, he might or might not have intended to "fix" it through proper channels)
We have Starmer calling for something which his own Party is telling everybody it's futile.
 
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Notice today we have Starmer calling for an investigation into the texting between Dyson and Johnson yet on same day a comment reported from shadow business secretary below..
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Typifies Labour . Firstly bringing it up in first place and then a disjointed response from party.
The very nature of encouraging workers, scientists etc to work in UK from anywhere (especially Singapore) would be to offer at least comparable tax regimes. I, d expect the PM to be able to "fix" this. (we have no idea his reasoning, he might or might not have intended to "fix" it through proper channels)
As I said earlier Starmer isn't the man to lead the Labour Party anywhere
 
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I originally thought he was OK... But he isn't... They need a leader who can unite the party and get them all singing from same hymn book.. Worry about which page later.
I did say at the outset that Starmer was the wrong man, for anything. I'm well aware of how damaging he was as the Director of Public Prosecutions, lacking in sound judgment and morality, having contempt for the established law despite being a barrister and a bully to boot.

By Boris Johnson's standards Starmer would make a good Tory PM.
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Woppee!!. Red letter day. Pfizer vaccine administered at 15:00 hrs. Local Surgery , where the 4 local medical practices came together. Portal went live last Thursday for my age group, phone call appointment on Monday, Vaccine today. Portal went live for my wifes age group Sunday , so I anticipate her being called in a week. Entire sequence under 45 minutes. .. walk down, 8 minutes , into clinic, documents and waiting .. 10 minutes. Divest clothing ,and vaccine 5 minutes. 15 minutes post vaccine "recovery"..
Great news. I’m pleased it’s going smoothly.
 

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It looks absolutely dreadful in India at the moment, but I think it is an indication of how careful we all have to be if we think this pandemic is over and go back to normal too quickly.
‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell | India | The Guardian
It’s too late. Everyone thinks it’s already over. The vaccine has been the magic bullet that has seen off coronavirus.

To be fair to these idiots (who make up a large section of the U.K. population), the government has not done enough reinforce the message regarding the danger which is still lurking. Boris Johnson is in full, Good News Guy Party Boy mode. He’s also late, yet again, in reacting to what’s happening in India. I think they were still piling in by the plane load earlier this week.
 

oldgroaner

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I did say at the outset that Starmer was the wrong man, for anything. I'm well aware of how damaging he was as the Director of Public Prosecutions, lacking in sound judgment and morality, having contempt for the established law despite being a barrister and a bully to boot.

By Boris Johnson's standards Starmer would make a good Tory PM.
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But Larry the cat would make a far better one
 

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It’s too late. Everyone thinks it’s already over. The vaccine has been the magic bullet that has seen off coronavirus.

To be fair to these idiots (who make up a large section of the U.K. population), the government has not done enough reinforce the message regarding the danger which is still lurking. Boris Johnson is in full, Good News Guy Party Boy mode. He’s also late, yet again, in reacting to what’s happening in India. I think they were still piling in by the plane load earlier this week.
Still buying the "boris the good hearted buffoon" routine, huh? Bit like believing he gives tax breaks to tory donors to help the uk. As anyone and their dog know the indian variant often defeat the pfizer jab (as in israel)
 
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oyster

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Notice today we have Starmer calling for an investigation into the texting between Dyson and Johnson yet on same day a comment reported from shadow business secretary below..
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Typifies Labour . Firstly bringing it up in first place and then a disjointed response from party.
The very nature of encouraging workers, scientists etc to work in UK from anywhere (especially Singapore) would be to offer at least comparable tax regimes. I, d expect the PM to be able to "fix" this. (we have no idea his reasoning, he might or might not have intended to "fix" it through proper channels)
We have Starmer calling for something which his own Party is telling everybody it's futile.
PM Starmer might have tried to ensure that the issues were resolved, but not necessarily by issuing orders to his chancellor.

For example, an emergency provision passed through HoC, establishing an exemption (or whatever it is called) in the circumstances prevailing.

That would then have been public, open to both scrutiny and any other company finding itself in the same sort of position.
 
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as long as our election is based on first past the post system, Labour needs to be a broad church to win power. That means that Starmer has to appeal to all the remainers, all the Scottish anti-independence, all the Marxists, all the unionists etc. all those in the middle who don't want BJ and a conservative government.
BJ does not have to do a thing until all the socialist corbynites accept Starmer as one of theirs.
 

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