Brexit, for once some facts.

jonathan.agnew

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Fishing, I believe, is highest participation... If sitting on a river bank with a pole is participating... Did read golf had equalled it but I suppose it depends how its measured.
For Spectators and money involved nothing gets near football. Not many promising talents aspire to be fishermen... Every street in UK has lads hoping to play for somebody one day. I don't think many of us actually realise the numbers involved with the game. During the season every premiere league game attracts roughly 50 k spectators every week. That's 5 million live spectators week in week out. (ie 10 premiere league games per week) And that's just premiere league.
We applaud Elton John for filling Wembley every now and again. Professional footballers fill equivalent of 8 Wembleys every week. (and that doesn't include all lower leagues or TV audiences or foreign audiences)
It really is mind blowing.
Well, I dont applaud Elton john (I'd think of giving Tom waits a hug if I were lucky enough to bump into him before hes bumped off, but that's as far it goes). All of that sounds, with respect, a bit extrinsic, mainstream. What's it about it intrinsically? At least gardening goes with feeling alive, part of a shared organic world.
 

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Well, I dont applaud Elton john (I'd think of giving Tom waits a hug if I were lucky enough to bump into him before hes bumped off, but that's as far it goes). All of that sounds, with respect, a bit extrinsic, mainstream. What's it about it intrinsically? At least gardening goes with feeling alive, part of a shared organic world.
Yep, sort of agree. But there is a certain drama involved with football. There is something in our psyche that makes football attractive.
I, d rather be sailing or biking but watching a good game with mates and a beer is a good way to pass an evening. And I hate gardening.
 
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What's it about it intrinsically? At least gardening goes with feeling alive, part of a shared organic world.
What it's about intrinsically is being able to escape this shared organic and often not very nice world for a couple of hours of fantasy and possibility, a chance to dream.

Nowhere is that more true than in FA cup matches where Davids can sometimes slay Goliaths.
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Yep, sort of agree. But there is a certain drama involved with football. There is something in our psyche that makes football attractive.
I, d rather be sailing or biking but watching a good game with mates and a beer is a good way to pass an evening. And I hate gardening.
Three of my neighbours are in their mid 90s and still very mobile & active. All three are keen gardeners and are out most days, bending, reaching, and stretching as they work. That must be doing them some good. The age is probably genetic, but the quality of life they enjoy must be due in part to the gentle exercise and working the muscles & joints gently every day.
 

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Three of my neighbours are in their mid 90s and still very mobile & active. All three are keen gardeners and are out most days, bending, reaching, and stretching as they work. That must be doing them some good. The age is probably genetic, but the quality of life they enjoy must be due in part to the gentle exercise and working the muscles & joints gently every day.
Like Zlatan, I hate gardening.

But I walk in the countryside a lot and my largely entymological natural history photography then involves lots of bending, reaching and stretching. Gardening without the mucky bits!
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Zlatan

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Three of my neighbours are in their mid 90s and still very mobile & active. All three are keen gardeners and are out most days, bending, reaching, and stretching as they work. That must be doing them some good. The age is probably genetic, but the quality of life they enjoy must be due in part to the gentle exercise and working the muscles & joints gently every day.
Each to his own. If they enjoy it, great. I keep my garden"acceptable "... cut grass, cut hedges... Then go out somewhere..
The new environmentaly friendly gardening is leave it be... Sounds win win to me.
 

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The world gets dafter by the day.

It's been announced that the annual Town Cryer competition will go ahead but in a Covid secure way. Each competitor will write down their message and send it in, where they will be judged on the clarity of the messages.

What on earth is the point?
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brexit stopped me selling anything to EU customers. No kits, no bikes.
Covid causes severe shortage of components: tyres, forks, brakes, cranksets. Bike frames are impossible to get unless you can order 250 sets for each model. I had no choice than slimming down the range for this year.
 

oyster

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The world gets dafter by the day.

It's been announced that the annual Town Cryer competition will go ahead but in a Covid secure way. Each competitor will write down their message and send it in, where they will be judged on the clarity of the messages.

What on earth is the point?
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To shame the government and the lack of clarity of their messages.

Mind, difficult when they have no shame.
 

Zlatan

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The world gets dafter by the day.

It's been announced that the annual Town Cryer competition will go ahead but in a Covid secure way. Each competitor will write down their message and send it in, where they will be judged on the clarity of the messages.

What on earth is the point?
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Me and my wife say that to each other most days.. There seems to be things happening that just make you think... Madness...
 

oyster

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Whatever caution I might have felt about the Covid vaccines, it is as nothing to the scepticism I have over home pill to cure Covid that seems to be being rushed out:

UK in drive to develop drugs to take at home to ‘stop Covid in its tracks’
Ministers announce taskforce to ‘supercharge’ search for antiviral treatments to roll out as soon as autumn
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/20/uk-in-drive-to-develop-drugs-to-take-at-home-to-stop-covid-in-its-tracks

I understand that budesonide is not new - and is extremely widely used already. But new substances are another ballpark.

Were I female, I'd be even more wary. After all, by far the majority of drug testing is done on males. So female-specific issues often do not get observed until it is out in the field.
 
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BREAKING Boris Johnson axes plan for White House-style TV briefings after spending £2.6m on venue
Well at least that's sort of good news, but it depends how much it fetches on Ebay, he can cough up the rest himself
 
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oldgroaner

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Whatever caution I might have felt about the Covid vaccines, it is as nothing to the scepticism I have over home pill to cure Covid that seems to be being rushed out:

UK in drive to develop drugs to take at home to ‘stop Covid in its tracks’
Ministers announce taskforce to ‘supercharge’ search for antiviral treatments to roll out as soon as autumn
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/20/uk-in-drive-to-develop-drugs-to-take-at-home-to-stop-covid-in-its-tracks

I understand that budesonide is not new - and is extremely widely used already. But new substances are another ballpark.

Were I female, I'd be even more wary. After all, by far the majority of drug testing is done on males. So female-specific issues often do not get observed until it is out in the field.
I wonder if this idea will come to fruition?
'Anti-Covid pill' could replace jabs as green light is given for clinical trials to begin
 
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