Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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You are rambling again. Think you mean "were yammering on"
And there are no racists on here.
Anti French/EU doesn't make anyone racist. Anti French is just common sense.
Re read it . Again but more closely. "Where " was the correct intention.. I was referring to the location ( this bulletin board) not the time period
 

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I think there have been around 30 cases of this rare blood clot that MIGHT be associated with the AZ vaccine but I have not seen any kind of break down of this number has anyone else?

For example if that 30 were spread across a wide age range and roughly 50/50 male/female then that would be better than if most of that 30 were female and say under 40 with no under lying health conditions.

Perhaps I have missed this break down of the stats but surely if this info has not yet been provided it should be asap.
The wording of some reports appears to refer to low platelet levels in those who suffer clots. An obvious question is whether those individuals had low platelet counts before the AV vaccine? Indeed, checking platelet counts in susceptible groups might be a sensible way forward.

I'd go further and question whether there is any association between platelet counts and severity of Covid-19 itself.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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Doesn’t everyone do that or is it just me? I sometimes punch or head butt my own reflection or stamp on my shadow. I thought it was normal. Are you saying it isn’t?
Stamping on your shadow is a bit extreme. It's a bit like voting for boris or brexit. Probably cathartic at the time, but ultimately futile.
 

Zlatan

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Re read it . Again but more closely. "Where " was the correct intention.. I was referring to the location ( this bulletin board) not the time period
I see now, but to be honest it makes even less sense. Did you use Google translate to write it. That often throws odd meaningless word combinations up from apparently sensible structure.
 

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'No end in sight'
Andrew Lawrence again, and I know he swears a bit, but it IS part of his act. He does a good one of Keir Starmer ( Hullo. You don't know me, but I'm Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party...) If you read the comments after this video, you will appreciate the feelings of many in the country. Distrust the government. Avoid mainstream media. Fight the lies. Remember, there is Brand New Tube, Bitchute, Odysee, UKColumn, Hugo Talks which are places for info.
 

Danidl

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'No end in sight'
Andrew Lawrence again, and I know he swears a bit, but it IS part of his act. He does a good one of Keir Starmer ( Hullo. You don't know me, but I'm Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party...) If you read the comments after this video, you will appreciate the feelings of many in the country. Distrust the government. Avoid mainstream media. Fight the lies. Remember, there is Brand New Tube, Bitchute, Odysee, UKColumn, Hugo Talks which are places for info.
Unfortunately that is what happens when your political establishment shilly shallys around.
 

Zlatan

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'No end in sight'
Andrew Lawrence again, and I know he swears a bit, but it IS part of his act. He does a good one of Keir Starmer ( Hullo. You don't know me, but I'm Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party...) If you read the comments after this video, you will appreciate the feelings of many in the country. Distrust the government. Avoid mainstream media. Fight the lies. Remember, there is Brand New Tube, Bitchute, Odysee, UKColumn, Hugo Talks which are places for info.
Think he, s doing a marvelous job of drumming up support for opposing views.
 

oldgroaner

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You are rambling again. Think you mean "were yammering on"
And there are no racists on here.
Anti French/EU doesn't make anyone racist. Anti French is just common sense.
Really?
racist
prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group,

Therefore it follows using your logic

racism
Simply common sense
 

oldgroaner

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........ and there we have it. The disease which infects this thread. A deep rooted hatred of the U.K.

The hatred is likely to have been seeded by personal failure to achieve. Rather than looking at themselves, they blame the government, the people around them, the country as a whole. This is plain to see in the content of many contributions made on here. It’s funny and it’s pathetic at the same time.
With a few years Psychiatric treatment, you could be restored to full idiocy.
I blame the bloody fools who voted for both Brexit and this government.
Pretend patriots that are actually enemies of not merely the state, but the rule of law, and the future of our descendants
You are a menace and a dangerous one at that!
Why do you have a deep rooted hatred of that sort?
 

Zlatan

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With a few years Psychiatric treatment, you could be restored to full idiocy.
I blame the bloody fools who voted for both Brexit and this government.
Pretend patriots that are actually enemies of not merely the state, but the rule of law, and the future of our descendants
You are a menace and a dangerous one at that!
Why do you have a deep rooted hatred of that sort?
Hang on OG... Just stop and try and guess exactly where we would be had Tories lost. We would certainly still left EU, Corbyn was most anti EU party leader we have ever had. He tried to hide it but come vote time he never once supported any EU votes. Just where would we have actually been with Labour at helm... So please give it a rest with vindictive blame game. We, ve got Tories,we, ve got Brexit and be thankful we haven't all got covid.
It sounds like pure spite and hatefulness blaming voters for making the only real choice we had.. Where would we be with Corbyn, McDonel, McCluskey and Diane Abott leading us over last 12 months. It really doesn't stand looking at. It actually frightens me. Corbyn couldnt organise his party let alone the country.
You have never accepted the simple fact that the only reason Tories are so dominant is because Labour are so weak, disjointed and actually unelectable. The party is even now nowhere near united. It's broken and has been for years. So don't blame the Tories and Tory voters look at Labour.
 
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oldgroaner

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Hang on OG... Just stop and try and guess exactly where we would be had Tories lost. We would certainly still left EU, Corbyn was most anti EU party leader we have ever had. He tried to hide it but come vote time he never once supported any EU votes. Just where would we have actually been with Labour at helm... So please give it a rest with vindictive blame game. We, ve got Tories,we, ve got Brexit and be thankful we haven't all got covid.
It sounds like pure spite and hatefulness blaming voters for making the only real choice we had.. Where would we be with Corbyn, McDonel, McCluskey and Diane Abott leading us over last 12 months. It really doesn't stand looking at. It actually frightens me. Corbyn couldnt organise his party let alone the country.
You have never accepted the simple fact that the only reason Tories are so dominant is because Labour are so weak, disjointed and actually unelectable. The party is even now nowhere near united. It's broken and has been for years. So don't blame the Tories and Tory voters look at Labour.
Why shouldn't we look at Tories and Tory voters, and the media too?

Lets look at that shall we
Why would Corbyn have been worse?

He wouldn't have spaffed billions on his cronies
And I really don't believe he would have been swayed by the economy when it was time to lockdown, why should he?
There would have been no help out to eat out.
No swindles on PPE
Frankly the one thing I dislike was Brexit.
There is no way on Earth he would have made the mistakes, lied nor acted like an idiot in the way Johnson has done
And do you really think he would have set out to make enemies of the EU
Not a chance in a million
And now we face yet another ill planned return to so called normal, are you going to guarantee there won't be yet another wave of casualties as a result of the idiot so called back to normal plan?

Lets examine this statement you made
"Tories are so dominant is because Labour are so weak, disjointed and actually unelectable"

And why is that? how about the following
The Media ran a character assassination on Corbyn because of "Anti Semitism"
Interestingly those who opposed him including Most labour Mp's
Here for instance is the link to a list of labour members who are also members of a group that literally have an agenda for a country other than the one they actually are elected to represent.
Labour Friends of Israel
nearly all of the Conservatives are members of "Friends of Israel" and accept large cash donations from them personally
As an example
"Data published on the Register of Members’ Interests now shows that Starmer received a £50,000 donation from Trevor Chinn, a member of the executive committee of the British Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM).

Corbyn was about the only one who didn't and spoke out against the way Israel was treating the Palestinians



And Corbyn being a silly man, would actually have tried to make Brexit work.
Can you accuse the Conservatives of actually giving a damn?
 

Zlatan

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Why shouldn't we look at Tories and Tory voters, and the media too?

Lets look at that shall we
Why would Corbyn have been worse?

He wouldn't have spaffed billions on his cronies
And I really don't believe he would have been swayed by the economy when it was time to lockdown, why should he?
There would have been no help out to eat out.
No swindles on PPE
Frankly the one thing I dislike was Brexit.
There is no way on Earth he would have made the mistakes, lied nor acted like an idiot in the way Johnson has done
And do you really think he would have set out to make enemies of the EU
Not a chance in a million
And now we face yet another ill planned return to so called normal, are you going to guarantee there won't be yet another wave of casualties as a result of the idiot so called back to normal plan?

Lets examine this statement you made
"Tories are so dominant is because Labour are so weak, disjointed and actually unelectable"

And why is that? how about the following
The Media ran a character assassination on Corbyn because of "Anti Semitism"
Interestingly those who opposed him including Most labour Mp's
Here for instance is the link to a list of labour members who are also members of a group that literally have an agenda for a country other than the one they actually are elected to represent.
Labour Friends of Israel
nearly all of the Conservatives are members of "Friends of Israel" and accept large cash donations from them personally
As an example
"Data published on the Register of Members’ Interests now shows that Starmer received a £50,000 donation from Trevor Chinn, a member of the executive committee of the British Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM).

Corbyn was about the only one who didn't and spoke out against the way Israel was treating the Palestinians



And Corbyn being a silly man, would actually have tried to make Brexit work.
Can you accuse the Conservatives of actually giving a damn?
OK OG carry on been vindictive breeding resentment and blaming voters. End of day only person getting upset about it is you.
Just let us all know when there is actually an alternative in mean time rest of us will just make best of what we, ve got.
Oh, and by the way. Tories are even more popular than ever. Instead of telling people they are wrong, just as Labour are prone to do, perhaps you should be wondering why Tories are so popular.
And its not media, its not voters IQ, its not the qualities of Tories.... Its Labour.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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Nah, was a picture of Thatcher,Jonathon's mum put it in his room as punishment and to ween him off adolescent habits.
Hope it worked.
Teflon tony (neocon) destabilise the middle east, maggie sowed the seeds of the 08 crisis (deregulate financial services), call me dave gave us brexit. From catastrophe to complete clusterfuck. And all conservative. Really, corbyn is not the issue.
 

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