Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

I know the vaccine is just as necessary in India as it is here, but how has the situation you describe happened when the vaccine was invented in this country using U.K. resources?

to It's due no doubt the innate British Talent for organisation that is going to make Brexit turn this into the best country in the world to live in with "Sunny Uplands" with a "Global" economy.

Oh.. dear, oh Dear That's assuming anyone survives the little "teething troubles" and "bumpy start" Brexit Britain is experiencing

 

[oyster]

Pleased to see some of the predictions here coming to fruition:

A leading Tory credited with inspiring Brexit has urged Boris Johnson to cull a raft of EU consumer and worker protections, now the UK has the freedom to act.
Safeguards for the use of data, pay and conditions, GM foods, hedge funds, dangerous chemicals and the disposal of environmentally-damaging vehicles should all be binned, Daniel Hannan said.

“Change is coming. To succeed outside the EU, we need to be fitter, leaner and more globally engaged,” said the former MEP, who has just been made a Conservative peer.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-consumer-worker-protections-brexit-b1783331.html

Hands up if you want the freedom and sovereign rights to poison yourself and get sold duff products with no redress. (And be unable to export them because no other country is stupid enough to buy them.)

 

[oldgroaner]

Pleased to see some of the predictions here coming to fruition:

A leading Tory credited with inspiring Brexit has urged Boris Johnson to cull a raft of EU consumer and worker protections, now the UK has the freedom to act.
Safeguards for the use of data, pay and conditions, GM foods, hedge funds, dangerous chemicals and the disposal of environmentally-damaging vehicles should all be binned, Daniel Hannan said.

“Change is coming. To succeed outside the EU, we need to be fitter, leaner and more globally engaged,” said the former MEP, who has just been made a Conservative peer.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-consumer-worker-protections-brexit-b1783331.html

Hands up if you want the freedom and sovereign rights to poison yourself and get sold duff products with no redress. (And be unable to export them because no other country is stupid enough to buy them.)

Probably be able to sell those ideas to the suckers who Farage is aiming his "Reform Britain" company at, no doubt they'll buy that too as he fleeces them

 

[oyster]

Looks like a very nasty situation in Washington DC - after Pence said he was not going to block the electoral college vote:

The Capitol has been breached, and the House is in recess
From Ted Barrett, Manu Raju and CNN's Capitol Hill team

The US Capitol has been breached during a tense situation with demonstrators, according to Capitol police officers.
The House doors have been locked and an emergency alert from the Capitol police just transmitted the same thing:

"Due to an INTERNAL threat in the building, take shelter in the nearest office and stay quiet."
Capitol Hill police are also blocking anyone from moving from Senate office buildings into the US Capitol building. There are underground tunnels that link the office buildings with the Capitol building that senators, staff, and journalists use to travel back and forth.

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-2021/index.html

6:00 PM Curfew across Washington. Trump continues to stoke the fire and damn Pence.

Looks like we might be just about to lose another record:

Per Fox News' Chad Pergram: This is the most significant breach of an American government institution since the British burned the Capitol after the Battle of Bladensburg on August 24, 1814
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/live-updates-pence-has-power-to-block-certification-trump-says

 

[oldgroaner]

Sky News@SkyNews

COVID-19: Benjamin Netanyahu blames Israel's spike in coronavirus cases on 'British mutation'

The labour and Tory free cash recipients in the
"Friends of Israel groups"
Will no doubt find it politic declare that statement to be essentially congratulatory
in order to avoid being accused of antisemitism

 

[flecc]

I've got a bunch of plastic cards that do that, I get them free of charge from my banks.

In addition the debts built up on the credit cards don't always have to be paid, as shown after the debt crisis of the John Major recession. Tens of thousands fled those massive debts which were then written off by all the lenders.

Over £40,000 in my youngest sister's case alone.
.

 

[Wicky]

I know little about how or where the Oxford-AZ vaccine is being manufactured. So I looked it up and found this:

The initial roll-out of the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine in Britain will use doses manufactured in Europe, the UK's Vaccine Taskforce has said.

Ian McCubbin, manufacturing lead for the taskforce, said the "vast, vast majority" of the 100 million doses of the drug ordered by the UK from AstraZeneca will be made in the UK.

But the first batches, due to be supplied this year, will not.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-initial-doses-of-the-oxford-vaccine-will-be-made-in-europe-taskforce-12155231

The India link is this story:

AstraZeneca has contracted Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine manufacturer, to make 1 billion doses of its vaccine for developing nations, including India.

https://apnews.com/article/international-news-pandemics-immunizations-india-coronavirus-pandemic-943593753be2ede632b28cec2e303165

It is whatever of that has been made which appears to have been commandeered - and future production.

Hancock knows this bloke Quatermass who can knock up a few million gallons...

What can go wrong...

 

[vfr400]

There is definitely much sense in checking more than just one source, but I generally find Wikipedia isn't too bad - misguided very occasionally, rather than actively misleading.

You shouldn't believe everything you read, as you've just said about Wikiepdia, so where do you go to validate websites such as Project Veritas?

Wiki is OK for most things, but not for anything to do with politics, Covid and anything on the Great Reset Agenda, which are all really the same thing. The people who speak against the agenda, get misquoted, then their chose journlist writes a hit piece on them, then that hitpiece is laundered into misinformation that's then referenced in Wiki. Note the use of labels attache dto anyone not on their side, but no labels on the people on their side. Anybody that uses such labels is a trained activist, not a normal person. here's Nancy Pelosi explaining how it works:

 

[Jesus H Christ]

I've got a bunch of plastic cards that do that, I get them free of charge from my banks.

So have I, but I don’t need to carry them around. Just put my watch on and I’m all set. All my bank cards, email, text, contacts calendar & telephone all on my wrist. Don’t even need to carry a phone much these days.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

In addition the debts built up on the credit cards don't always have to be paid, as shown after the debt crisis of the John Major recession. Tens of thousands fled those massive debts which were then written off by all the lenders.

Over £40,000 in my youngest sister's case alone.
.

It never really leaves you though. There are ways of finding out people who have defaulted on debt. They will find it hard to get decent accommodation for starters.

 

[vfr400]

They stormed the senate building. While they were in there, a group broke into Nacy Pelosi's office, where a PC was still logged on to an email account, so they presumably had a look through them before removing the hard disc. They said that they had taken the hard drive out of NP's PC too. I'm wondering whether that and similar activities are what that was really about and the activists/agents just wound up the crowd to be their storm troops.

Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer’s computer

A violent mob invaded the US capitol building at the behest of Donald Trump.

arstechnica.com

 

[vfr400]

My prediction for 2021 - maybe into 2022: Change to capital gains tax. Instead of paying CGT when you realise the gain, you'll have to pay it as it accrues, whether it's your home or your investments. This will be one step as part of The Great Reset financial restructuring. Step 1 is to make as many people possible dependent on the state. Step 2 is to tax the people with jobs enough to make them poor too. It's going to be interesting to see how that works out. All the smug middle classes are going to become a little unhappy soon.

 

[RossG]

What happens if they are already unhappy ? The only happy person I know ATM is me

 

[Woosh]

My prediction for 2021 - maybe into 2022: Change to capital gains tax. Instead of paying CGT when you realise the gain, you'll have to pay it as it accrues, whether it's your home or your investments.

a lot of assets can't be accurately valued until they are sold.

 

[Woosh]

They stormed the senate building. While they were in there, a group broke into Nacy Pelosi's office, where a PC was still logged on to an email account, so they presumably had a look through them before removing the hard disc.

probably fake news...
The PCs themselves will have screen-locked after a few minutes.
I suppose all government PCs have bitlocker installed on their HDD.

 

[Woosh]

Have you watched the chaos Trump has created on Capitol Hill?
Over the last 4 years, Trump has been totally one-sided. There ought to be an extra oath to the office of president of the USA to stop future presidents to behave this way.
He's truly the worst US president ever and should be impeached as soon as possible.

 

[RossG]

According to the news media Pence is now technically in control Trump having finally gone completely round the bend. Calls for the 25th amendment to be called for reasons of insanity.

 

[oyster]

According to the news media Pence is now technically in control Trump having finally gone completely round the bend. Calls for the 25th amendment to be called for reasons of insanity.

Sounds like there is a wave of resignations from the White House. Which will make everyone even more aware that Trump cannot continue.

A republican even crossed the house to speak from the democrat side on the election vote.

IMHO, the house should go straight from endorsing the election result to the 25th amendment. The only question being whether they complete the election endorsement before the 25th.

 

[oldgroaner]

Carole Cadwalladr

@carolecadwalla

I know there are other things going on but I have just discovered this and OH MY GOD. LeaveEU has - WAIT FOR IT - moved its domain to Ireland. In order to stay in the EU


Leave.EU moves to Ireland to keep .EU suffix
The London Economic | It comes amid a bonfire of UK domains which are registered to the EU registry | Politics
thelondoneconomic.com

This made my morning Leave.EU has become leave.UK

 

[oldgroaner]

a lot of assets can't be accurately valued until they are sold.

like giving up EU membership