Brexit, for once some facts.

Woosh

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If I had some genuinely useful applications for a smartphone
it's also a camera and a TV, iplayer, translator, map, authenticator etc. and goes into your pocket.
 

flecc

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I see Sainsbury is stocking Spar products in Northern Ireland. Because of supply chain issues.

Good brexit result - Dutch chain supplies British supermarket.
They are getting in a mess, just been there this afternoon and noticed a few substitutes.

They'd even run out of their reusable fruit and veg bags, substituting with cheap plain paper bags.
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it's also a camera and a TV, iplayer, translator, map, authenticator etc. and goes into your pocket.
Of course I'm very well aware of that, and more. But how many times must I make it clear in here that I have no need of those?

The camera facility, though good for many uses, for a variety of reasons isn't suitable for the photography I do.

I have absolutely no desire to watch TV or use the iplayer out doors and have access to them indoors via my 65" 8K smart TV with recording facilities on a Freeview Play 1TB recorder.

These 5" to 7" monsters don't fit into most of my pockets.

And at my age and state of health my travel is local and very restricted so no opportunities to use maps and translators. Anyway I'm English, if a foreigner doesn't understand I only have to shout louder. ;)
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Jesus H Christ

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I very much agree that no-one should be disadvantaged by not having a suitable, charged, mobile on a working network, so far as possible.

In particular, I hate using my mobile to pay for things like parking. The complexity of the few I have used is reason enough. But for many areas, the idea that a flat phone battery can have such a profound effect on people is wholly ridiculous, unfair, and discriminatory. (I have recent changed phone - the last one would sometimes require charging three or more times a day by its demise.) Things like air and train travel.
My Apple Watch is great for payments at the moment. Don’t need to touch anything.
 
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Jesus H Christ

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Well we’ve bust through 1000 deaths / day today and I think we’ll see it rise further. It’s hard to comprehend that it was only just over two weeks ago that Boris Johnson was promising everyone a big indoor get together for five days over Christmas. He only backtracked on that with great reluctance.

I would think that at least 500 of today’s dead can be directly attributed to Boris Johnson. He is constantly trying to be Good News Guy, completely incapable of taking a tough decision. He is incapable of doing anything except trying to throw a celebration party at every turn. It’s killing people.
 

Jesus H Christ

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Well we’ve bust through 1000 deaths / day today. With 30000 in hospital and 62000 new infections, I think we’ll see deaths rise further. We could be doing two grand a day in a fortnight. It’s hard to comprehend that it was only just over two weeks ago that Boris Johnson was promising everyone a big indoor get together for five days over Christmas. He only backtracked on that with great reluctance.

I would think that at least 500 of today’s dead can be directly attributed to Boris Johnson. He is constantly trying to be Good News Guy, completely incapable of taking a tough decision. He is incapable of doing anything except trying to throw a celebration party at every turn. He is quite literally killing people as a result of negligence and recklessness.
 

oldgroaner

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No cause for panic, at this rate it will take 180 years before we run out of people.
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I'm not panicking, just hope I die of natural causes before it's my turn.
Correction, with my history it's far too late for that it will be of unnatural causes (not counting a mis-spent youth) :cool:
 
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oldgroaner

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I rather liked this tweet
Brexit Bin #BrexitReality Retweeted


Fred 1971 #Rejoin #FBPE@lazyfred1971
https://twitter.com/lazyfred1971

Is anyone clever enough to mock-up a Tory Monopoly board? y'know, land on a square your neighbour gets a contract, land on another & your boss gets the BBC. when you pass go the cash goes into a Cayman Island account. you don't go to jail, you go to the House of Lords.

Oh I want one!:D
 
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oyster

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Looks like a very nasty situation in Washington DC - after Pence said he was not going to block the electoral college vote:

The Capitol has been breached, and the House is in recess
From Ted Barrett, Manu Raju and CNN's Capitol Hill team

The US Capitol has been breached during a tense situation with demonstrators, according to Capitol police officers.
The House doors have been locked and an emergency alert from the Capitol police just transmitted the same thing:

"Due to an INTERNAL threat in the building, take shelter in the nearest office and stay quiet."
Capitol Hill police are also blocking anyone from moving from Senate office buildings into the US Capitol building. There are underground tunnels that link the office buildings with the Capitol building that senators, staff, and journalists use to travel back and forth.

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-2021/index.html

6:00 PM Curfew across Washington. Trump continues to stoke the fire and damn Pence.
 
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oyster

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Is anyone watching BBC QT? It’s a Tory demolition job. Quite right too. That Nazi Huawei bloke (Vaccination king), is hilarious. Not a clue.
I wish I wasn't. He is awful in every possible way.

My take away lesson: There is nowhere near enough vaccine. Therefore promise anything, spread out delivery, but then explain away failure to deliver by blaming everyone else. The 100 million doses we have secured are anything but. India has commandeered EVERY dose in the country.
 

oyster

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I know the vaccine is just as necessary in India as it is here, but how has the situation you describe happened when the vaccine was invented in this country using U.K. resources?
I know little about how or where the Oxford-AZ vaccine is being manufactured. So I looked it up and found this:

The initial roll-out of the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine in Britain will use doses manufactured in Europe, the UK's Vaccine Taskforce has said.

Ian McCubbin, manufacturing lead for the taskforce, said the "vast, vast majority" of the 100 million doses of the drug ordered by the UK from AstraZeneca will be made in the UK.

But the first batches, due to be supplied this year, will not.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-initial-doses-of-the-oxford-vaccine-will-be-made-in-europe-taskforce-12155231

The India link is this story:

AstraZeneca has contracted Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine manufacturer, to make 1 billion doses of its vaccine for developing nations, including India.

https://apnews.com/article/international-news-pandemics-immunizations-india-coronavirus-pandemic-943593753be2ede632b28cec2e303165

It is whatever of that has been made which appears to have been commandeered - and future production.
 

oldgroaner

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I know little about how or where the Oxford-AZ vaccine is being manufactured. So I looked it up and found this:

The initial roll-out of the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine in Britain will use doses manufactured in Europe, the UK's Vaccine Taskforce has said.

Ian McCubbin, manufacturing lead for the taskforce, said the "vast, vast majority" of the 100 million doses of the drug ordered by the UK from AstraZeneca will be made in the UK.

But the first batches, due to be supplied this year, will not. :D

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-initial-doses-of-the-oxford-vaccine-will-be-made-in-europe-taskforce-12155231

The India link is this story:

AstraZeneca has contracted Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine manufacturer, to make 1 billion doses of its vaccine for developing nations, including India.

https://apnews.com/article/international-news-pandemics-immunizations-india-coronavirus-pandemic-943593753be2ede632b28cec2e303165

It is whatever of that has been made which appears to have been commandeered - and future production.
Does this qualify as a "Brexit Bonus" or "Sunny Upland"?
 
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