Brexit, for once some facts.

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Tommy Robinson winning EU election, Trump winning the election, Trump's lawyers releasing the 'dragon' overturning the result etc.
You did explain exactly what Trump's maneuvers are going to be* but your predictions of the outcome did not match with reality.

* Mike Pence will hand over the presidency to Trump
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson says "we will be bringing in measures to ensure that we test people coming into this country and prevent the virus from being readmitted" Minus the 20 million that have passed through already,and we cant trace
 
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A US military B757, occasionally used for presidential transport, has booked a landing slot at Prestwick Airport on the day of Biden's inauguration. The advance notice is to allow security arrangements to be put in place and for Police Scotland to move its panda car to Ayrshire.
I wonder if Trump is intending to join the other orange morons in the west of Scotland.

Though suspect he might he might stop over on his way to Saudi Arabia (only place that will have him), as too chilly and not enough golf courses in Russia...

 
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Johnson is presiding over the biggest defeat in the nation's History, more dead and suffering than from all the many wars we have had, and now we are told what amounts to a million and a quarter are infected. His lack of leadership is endangering the nation

Here are the latest figures of infection ratios
Pippa Crerar@PippaCrerar
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Here are those ONS estimates for the rest of England.
London - 1 in 30
North East - 1 in 55
North West - 1 in 40
Yorks & Humber - 1 in 55
East Mids - 1 in 40
West Mids - 1 in 65
East - 1 in 45
South East - 1 in 45
South West - 1 in 125
Nationally it was 1-in-900 as recently as September
I certainly don't think that Johnson has done a good job. However, if you look at almost any country similar to Britain and compare its figures now against those in September you will find that (as predicted even last February) they have risen very considerably. UK current figures are very alarming (***), and would be somewhat better were Boris remotely competent; but I think our current figures would have been very bad whoever was trying to run things.

(***) having looked again, even more alarming than I had realised
 

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24 hours is a long time in the world of the Express

When it comes to "U" turns, they're even faster than Boris!:D
Are there yet any recorded cases of fish carrying Covid across national boundaries?
 
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I certainly don't think that Johnson has done a good job. However, if you look at almost any country similar to Britain and compare its figures now against those in September you will find that (as predicted even last February) they have risen very considerably. UK current figures are very alarming (***), and would be somewhat better were Boris remotely competent; but I think our current figures would have been very bad whoever was trying to run things.

(***) having looked again, even more alarming than I had realised
At this point it's worth looking at New Zealand, if we were an island like them we could have closed the airports and pulled up the drawbridge y'know.
https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/6-new-cases-2-days-covid-19-managed-isolation

6 new cases in 2 days of COVID-19 in managed isolation
Media release
05 January 2021
There are 6 cases of COVID :cool:
 
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Are there yet any recorded cases of fish carrying Covid across national boundaries?
Priti Patel has stopped that with armed boats that patrol the borders and shoot any fish on site if it tries to cross.
So far we have run into some claims for damaged periscopes from Russian Nuclear submarines running pleasure cruises in the North Sea and Channel:D
 
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Pulling up the drawbridge doesn't help when the mutant virus is on your side.
Ah, but that's the nub isn't it? had we had a leader of men and women instead of a follower of Bannon running the country
We would not have followed policies reminiscent of the old
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A vampire has to be invited into your house, or it can't enter.
And we invited, what was it 20 million over the period of the pandemic via air and sea, then there was emptying hospital beds of the Elderly into care homes untested that killed thousands, Nightingale Hospitals at a cost of Millions where even the Morgues didn't get used and only 56 patients were treated before the were closed, "Eat out to make the Cash registers ring" and "Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year"
All without testing travellers and having a test and trace system
That works
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/01/05/government-total-number-private-sector-test-and-trace-consultants/
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Questioned by Labour MP Andy Slaughter about the cost and the responsibilities of external consultants working for Test and Trace, Health Minister Helen Whately revealed that, as of November, 2,300 consultants were working for the scheme on behalf of 73 different companies. This figure is comparative to the number of civil servants working for the Treasury (2,260) and the Department for International Trade (2,290).

It has cost £375 million to employ private sector consultants since the inception of Test and Trace in the early months of the Coronavirus pandemic in 2020. Run by Conservative-appointed House of Lords member Baroness Dido Harding,

If the App ever works it might come in handy for the next pandemic, what we can say is if it isn't the most expensive app of all time, it must be pretty close to the top of the list :cool:
 
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Not with the current utterly stupid way of designing apps so they can't be used via computers.

The government claims of 95% mobile phone coverage are a nonsense and WiFi is often no substitute. A sizeable proportion of our population have no coverage as witness my area IN LONDON, the capital city.

In addition a fair proportion of owned mobile phones are not smartphones so cannot use apps, their often older owners having them for emergency outdoor use and using the reliability of their computers for internet access.

Example: I am one of the latter since I have no home coverage of any sort for a mobile or smart meter, but use the internet for almost everything.
As a mobile app developer I have to pull you up on a few of those claims, flecc:
- 95% of the population have coverage. It's not geographical coverage, and it's not guaranteed good coverage all the time because mobile cells 'shrink' depending on how many people are using them (in London - a lot). Coverage is damped heavily indoors depending on brick walls, etc., but see below.*
- 84% of UK adults own a smartphone, so they can use apps. that's a pretty decent majority .

The 'utterly stupid way of designing apps' is driven by US companies in rivalry (Google & Apple). Having a universal set of programming interfaces (APIs) doesn't suit either, and why would they want to support a PC made by Microsoft? No money in it, no mobile angle.
But they notably pulled together to create Covid APIs for the benefit of the world - that's a rare step by them. However, the UK Covid app developers chose to ignore those APIs and tried to go their own way. Other app devs could see they were unhinged - on another planet - and we were shouting just like doctors shout at the TV about lockdown. They had to reverse that dumb decision after approx 3-4 months, vital months lost in the summer when numbers were low enough to implement test & trace. Not any more.

*If you buy a reasonable modern smartphone then you can use your WiFi as though you were connected to a mobile base station - it's seamless. Just look for VoWiFi support (Voice over WiFi). I recommend trying it, and I'd claim WiFi is therefore useful for coverage. even at home, not just at Starbucks, etc.
 
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The US election is getting very interesting. there's all sorts of weird things going around at the moment, like pictures of a bathroom said to be clipped from a video telling one of the judges involved to come clean or the rest of the video will be shown.

Project veritas claims that they had completely infiltrated Georgia and are about to release their evidence. The Attorny for North Georgia has suddenly and inexplicably resigned.
...
I think you've been drinking from the Fentiman's Fountain.*
You do know about Project Veritas?

Here's some other news:
> Republican lawyer Cleta Mitchell, who advised President Trump during his Saturday phone call with Georgia’s secretary of state in an effort to overturn the election, resigned on Tuesday as a partner in the Washington office of the law firm Foley & Lardner.

Using Occams' Razor, I'd say the latter is more likely to be true. Mind you, Occam's Razor also suggests you're probably winding us up. ;)

*rather more British & tastier than Kool-Aid.
 
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This is how you fight viruses...

UK says its aircraft carrier strike group is ready to deploy. China's already watching

By Brad Lendon, CNN

Updated 0521 GMT (1321 HKT) January 5, 2021
(CNN) Britain is officially an aircraft carrier power again.
The Royal Navy announced on Monday that the UK's Carrier Strike Group, centered on Britain's largest ever warship, the HMS Queen Elizabeth, had achieved initial operating capability.
The designation means the 65,000-ton carrier, its air assets including F-35 stealth fighter jets and helicopters, as well as its escorting destroyers, frigates, submarines and supply ships, are ready to deploy within five days of receiving orders to do so.
Qualified pilots and ground crews are on notice.
"This is a hugely significant milestone for HMS Queen Elizabeth, the Royal Navy and the whole country. This achievement is a testament to the determination of our service personnel and industry workforce who have delivered this first-rate military capability, a capability held by only a handful of nations," UK Defense Minister Jeremy Quin said in a statement.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/05/europe/uk-aircraft-carrier-strike-group-intl-hnk-mil/index.html
 
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