Aah. Yes. Our character assassin. Who voted for brexit. And then boris. And gove, patel, grayling. And say he would do it all again. Really, i couldnt have a lower opinion of your ability to get things right.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yes, so I'd found.
There's a surprising number of variants on the initials ECHR amd EHCR, from courts to commissions. There's even one web site claiming that only the UK and French versions are genuine!
But at the root of it all, as I'd long known, is the Human Rights Act, written mainly by British Conservative MP and lawyer David Maxwell-Fyfe on the instructions of Winston Churchill, the instigator.
But our UK governments of both persuasions refused to implement it, until we eventually had to due to our EU membership since the EU had adopted it unchanged. It's good law, but often misused for partisan reasons as currently.
And the Tory party are dedicated to getting rid of it and replacing it with a limited Bill of Rights.
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I‘m afraid you’ve caught Corbynvirus. The symptoms include denial and a loss of perspective on reality. You can easily test yourself for Corbynvirus, just look at a white surface and if you convince yourself it’s black, you may be positive.
I dont need to. It's a bit like trump in usa. But worse. boris is destroying more than the country, the old, the young, the fiscus, the economy. Also conservatism as a brand. It's what it takes. You're a classic example of a conservative brexit boris supporter. who need an enormous dose of reality to realize anything. And I enjoy the spectacle so it's all good.They also have much tighter immigration controls in that neck of the world. They can lock down and contain much easier.
Anyway, forget Corbyn and McDonnell, that ain’t happening. The public have given their verdict on that pair and like the EHRC report, it’s very clear, and also like the EHRC report, you can’t accept it
Thanks, the above explains a lot. It tells me that you have completely misunderstood what the EHRC is, what it was asked to do and what it’s findings were. I don’t think I’ve missed anything from my list of observations.
Not particularly you Danidl, but this is so “Hard Left” blame the organisation conducting the enquiry, blame bias, blame the Jews, blame the media, blame the public, blame the Conservatives, blame Israel. When all along, the problem IS / Was the Hard Left Labour leadership. That’s gone now anyway.
Could you imagine the furore if the EHRC had found against the Conservatives on a similar issue? OG, JA and others suffering from a similar mental illness would be all over it. The EHRC would be portrayed as a bastion of truth, justice and honour. This illustrates what a nasty, duplicitous, jealousy sodden movement the Hard Left is. Utterly vile and now consigned to the wilderness of politics.
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Hallelujah brother (bible thumping stuff). Seriously, for me there wouldn't be a furore viz ehrc and conservative party. Their Islamophobia, xenopobia racism is common knowledge. I mean, we had brexit, farage etc. Its hardly news is it?
Edit - I gather from bbc farage is reestablishing brexit party as anti lockdown/pro herd immunity party. Lovely stuff, just a matter of time before the tory party lurches in the same direction, as usual.
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and your evidence is? From a recognised & credible source please. Not the perverted ramblings of a bitter old & twisted maniac who feels cheated by society because they’ve not achieved the success to which they feel entitled. An equivalent body to the EHCR will do.
Your self proclaimed francophobia and feelings about migrants crossing the channel) would be one starting point..and I imagine in the panoply of conservative voters you are probably relatively moderate.
Edit - not that that precludes me being a perverted rambler (which sound quite appealing)
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You know, Drakeford makes good sense. I just hope he isn't being over-optimistic:
Welsh first minister suggests civic responsibility matters more than rules in fighting Covid
Mark Drakeford, the Welsh first minister, also did a broadcast media round this morning. Here are the main points.
Welsh first minister suggests civic responsibility matters more than rules in fighting Covid
Mark Drakeford, the Welsh first minister, also did a broadcast media round this morning. Here are the main points.
- Drakeford confirmed that the 17-day Welsh lockdown would end, as planned, a week today. He said:
He saw this as a bargain with the public, he said:
- He said the Welsh government would not know until about two weeks after the lockdown whether it had succeeded. But the data suggested that travel rates in Wales had been much lower than normal, which implied people were following the rules, he said.
- He said a new “basic set of national rules” would be introduced in Wales for after 9 November.
- But he also appealed to people to act responsibility - suggesting that public behaviour would count more than government regulations in combating the virus. Speaking ahead of his briefing later, he said:
- He said that Boris Johnson has been ignoring his call to convene a meeting of Cobra, to allow the four nations of the UK to better coordinate their coronavirus policies.
victims still need to ask the EHRC to investigate though.
read their annual report here:
Thank you for proving my point. You have just illustrated perfectly that you have no evidence. The above is just a smorgasbord of baseless accusations that only exist inside your expired mind. If you had evidence, you would have provided it.
I think your problem, like most Hard Left, is that you have underachieved in life. There is a huge disparity between your expectations and where you now find yourself. The Hard Left reaction to this is to peevishly seek to drag down others to a mediocre level and to vilify success. This is often done at the expense of evidence.
You illustrate my point superbly
good point.
the problem we have is those who shout loudly that they want their freedoms restored often behave against their own interest.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I ignore the propaganda and promotion of bias, leading to such false allegations against me from those like you who soak up all that stuff.
Here's the reality since before you were born. Zionism has since 1948 and the theft of Palestine campaigned continuously towards total possession of all of the biblical lands of Canaan, renamed Syria-Palestinia by the Romans at the diaspora, the latter part the Israelis call Israel now,
Their claim is and always has been false, Canaan being the land of the Canaanites, hence it's name, and the Canaanites being today's Palestinians who have always been there. Indeed the Jewish/Christian/Islamic God is the Canaanite junior God Yahweh who, together with junior god Baal, was adopted as theirs by the Hebrews when they settled alongside the Canaanites following their Exodus from Egypt. That fractious Exodus had of course led to their loss of any connections to the Egyptian sun god Ra.
I'm grateful to all the Israeli Jewish archaeologists, scientists and academics who, in true academic tradition, continue to research and show the proofs of the truths in opposition to the Orthodox fundamentalists who promote the false Zionist claims.
It's of course this background that has led to all the false accusations against Labour following their refusal to accept a UN definition of anti-semitism that included criticism of Israel.
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Great. How does that excuse, and what does it have to do with the Labour Party, under Corbyn’s leadership, being nasty to their Jewish members?
I've just added that for those who know so little about the subject. Here it is again:
"It's of course this background that has led to all the false accusations against Labour following their refusal to accept a UN definition of anti-semitism that included criticism of Israel."
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So the (EHRC), with expertise in these matters, are either complicit in the false allegations or they have failed to identify the allegations as being false. Whereas you, in isolation with no resources, no access to the details of the allegations, no access to the complainant and no access to those implicated has decided the EHRC is wrong and that you are correct.
Forgive me for saying you are talking bollicks.
I may misunderstand what the EHRC IS, but I think I have an understanding of what it was supposed to be. I read through ..or more honestly skimmed through the 160 page report, expecting to find grevious insults, evidence of systematic blackballing, tar and feathering, and what I find are ruffled feathers . Bluntly, I dealt with many more serious events in my college over the years, without recourse to such commissions. Common sense seems uncommon.
Now I have no interest in the internal machinations of the Tories,the Labour party ,their personalities .