Here's how I see it Danidl, as you say there's a cost benefit analysis going on all the time in the health service, a constant " Is it really worth it" scenario you might say. Now what plays on my mind is who is making these life or death decisions, who has the right qualifications to play God ? the way covid has been handled is a perfect example of how to get it wrong. We were told from the offset masks don't work and we shouldn't wear them and deplete the resources that the NHS will need. This has turned out to be completely untrue, masks most definitely do work which is why Doctors, Nurses, Dentists and come to that car body sprayers wear them. Also from what I've managed to discover there never was a shortage anyway. Moving the elderly to care homes where they would be unprotected, another catastrophic decision and so it goes on. If you have no confidence in your Government or any controlling authorities you're left with the choice of either shrugging your shoulders and saying that's life or finding ways to work your way around the system to get what you want ... and that's what I do, every single day.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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What are the odds on this doing anything useful by 1st January 2021?
I can't help seeing an eight hectare red button labelled "PANIC".
Vast Brexit customs clearance centre to be built in Kent
Exclusive: council given only hours’ notice of emergency purchase of 1.2m sq ft ‘Mojo’ site
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/10/vast-brexit-customs-clearance-centre-to-be-built-in-kent
I can't help seeing an eight hectare red button labelled "PANIC".
Vast Brexit customs clearance centre to be built in Kent
Exclusive: council given only hours’ notice of emergency purchase of 1.2m sq ft ‘Mojo’ site
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/10/vast-brexit-customs-clearance-centre-to-be-built-in-kent
interesting .. finally the UK is making some moves. I am now in France, and on passing through Dublin port , I noticed the brand new Customs storage area, fully vacant. All sheds and signage long completed . On arriving at Cherburg , I noticed relabeled customs sheds , for non EU visitors.
All good news .. the sooner we get out completely the sooner we can start making plans to get back in again, can't wait. Stay brushed up on your French & German that's all that the EU really consists of anyway, and one day there'll be the three of us all back together again.
in France, people wear face masks in trains, shops, streets, some wear them even on beaches etc.
You'll get told off if you forget to take your mask with you went you go out.
After you leave the train etc or after every 3-4 hours, you'll bin the current mask and put on a new mask.
They sell boxes of 50 in supermarkets.
I know we have had our differences in the past, but I’m very sorry to hear about this. I wouldn’t wish France on anyone. How are you coping with all of those French people everywhere? I hope that you manage to find a way out and and are able to return to your home very soon.
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In their latest quest for someone or something to blame, the BLAME community are blaming teachers for poor educational performance because they mark down black / ethnic children’s predicted exam grades, thus disadvantaging them. This latest imaginary racism can easily be resolved. The affected child can sit the exam and demonstrate how wrong and how racist teachers are. A simple solution to another non-existent BLAME manufactured situation.
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I think the government has created a monster. That monster is, working from home. From reading the comments in the Mail, folks really do not want to go back to the office / workplace. They’ve had a taste of semi-retirement and they like it.
I like retirement, but the difference is I went through quite a lot of financial hardship, going without and financial risk to enable me to retire very early with more disposable income than I’ve ever had. The fancy cars, the lager & chips on foreign beaches and the garden hot-tubs need paying for, so I’m afraid it’s got to be a case of going back to the grindstone for many. It would help if our MPs showed some leadership by packing out the HoC, just to show how safe it now is to work indoors in a crowded office space.
I like retirement, but the difference is I went through quite a lot of financial hardship, going without and financial risk to enable me to retire very early with more disposable income than I’ve ever had. The fancy cars, the lager & chips on foreign beaches and the garden hot-tubs need paying for, so I’m afraid it’s got to be a case of going back to the grindstone for many. It would help if our MPs showed some leadership by packing out the HoC, just to show how safe it now is to work indoors in a crowded office space.
Yes it was very difficult. I have been wanting to get over and cut the grass since march. In parts of my estate it was up to 2 metres tall,and the ragwort was majestic
You can get ointment for Ragwort that's turned Majestic, probably cheaper in France too.
Have a nice time over there BTW
Just heard on the radio that London's ExCel 4000 bed Nightingale emergency hospital only treated a total of 50 Covid-19 patients before being closed.
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However, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
I'm not convinced, I think by shutting down all routine hospital treatment, cancelling almost all operations, shifting all care patients to care homes and large scaling the Nightingales in both size and numbers, we went well over the top.
A bit more either/or and a bit less panic would have been more sensible and I'm not aware of any other country creating Nightingales.
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I agree up to a point, but there was never enough nurses to staff the extra bed capacity. The governing factor as far as NHS capacity was concerned was always staff, not infrastructure.
And how busy where the four mortuaries there?
Boris missed a big opportunity there, he should have emptied the old codgers straight into them instead of into care homes, not only would it have cut out the middle man, but think of the saving of costs on Ambulance diesel, tyres and wear and tear
And most likely halved the death rate too!
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I don't know what they called them (probably not what Google translate tells me is Chinese for nightingales - 夜莺 - Yèyīng), but didn't China build at least one huge hospital in ten days (or whatever)?
China is rather bigger than us though, we attempted to build SEVEN Nightingales, but I don't think most of them were ever completed or used.
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A bit less panic would clearly have been good; a sensibly timed initial shutdown would have saved the need for panic.
Agreed, but my posts are on the basis that chance was lost long ago and panic was still the wrong answer. All we've done is waste vast sums of money yet still achieved record deaths.
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