Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

What was that? A GPS system? A busted government looking at a busted company for a busted idea?

UK seeking to scale back plans for independent satnav, report says
Ministers reportedly exploring alternatives to plan announced in 2018 to build rival to EU’s Galileo project
British ministers are seeking to scale back plans for a £5bn satellite navigation system that was introduced in 2018 as an alternative to the EU’s Galileo project, it has been reported.

The ministers are exploring other options, which include using OneWeb, the UK satellite operator that went bankrupt in March, the Financial Times reported, citing sources.

OneWeb has pledged to move its satellite production from Florida in the US to the UK if its management wins government support for its bid, according to the report.

Plans for an independent satellite system were announced in 2018 by the then prime minister, Theresa May to ensure national security in the event that Britain were banned from equal access to the EU programme after Brexit.

The satellite program was expected to potentially rival EU’s Galileo system, which is designed to compete with the US Global Positioning System (GPS), used for commercial, military and other critical applications such as guiding aircraft.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/20/uk-seeking-to-scale-back-plans-for-independent-satnav-report-says

 

[vfr400]

"all across the country there are reports of guys randomly stabbing people in the neck"
Try that out in a mental health tribunal (and don't blame me if you end up on a therapeutic dose of olanzapine).

I guess you know about these drugs as a patient.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I guess you know about these drugs as a patient.

Now that's Katie Hopkins style trolling. I'm sure you can do better than that.

 

[oldgroaner]

Now that's Katie Hopkins style trolling. I'm sure you can do better than that.

I find the ignore button kills 99.9% of all trolls
(I just keep the 0.01% funny ones)

 

[Woosh]

What was that? A GPS system? A busted government looking at a busted company for a busted idea?

reality check for the post brexit era.
National debt exceeds GDP, Pound exchange rate is at record low, unemployment reaches new high.
Whom our government is going to tax to keep going?
it's kind of strange to look at Sunak Rishi for ideas - he's married to a very rich family. Would he dare taxing the billionaires?

 

[Danidl]

I find the ignore button kills 99.9% of all trolls
(I just keep the 0.01% funny ones)

That leaves 0.098% of unfunny trolls .. and they recover like Candida Albans or e coli ,but not as pleasant

 

[sjpt]

What was that? A GPS system? A busted government looking at a busted company for a busted idea?

UK seeking to scale back plans for independent satnav, report says

Probably best to partner with China. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53132957

 

[oyster]

Probably best to partner with China. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53132957

I saw that after my post - and thought along those lines.

Mind, I can imagine India pushing forward with their own GPS-like system given the severe breakdown of relations with China.

Or, the really sensible solution, get on board with Galileo. Magnifico-o-o-o-o.

 

[wheeler]

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I saw that after my post - and thought along those lines.

Mind, I can imagine India pushing forward with their own GPS-like system given the severe breakdown of relations with China.

Or, the really sensible solution, get on board with Galileo. Magnifico-o-o-o-o.

GPS, Glonass, BeiDou, and Galileo are all crap, the UK has to have a world beating system.

 

[Danidl]

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GPS, Glonass, BeiDou, and Galileo are all crap, the UK has to have a world beating system.

Well since it will only be required to operate from St Ives to Gretna Green , perhaps a few hot air balloons will provide the coverage. Once inside the EU ,the other systems will operate just fine

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

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GPS, Glonass, BeiDou, and Galileo are all crap, the UK has to have a world beating system.

I don’t know why we need our own GPS system. What we have works fine. The only down side is that it could be switched off if we invaded another country or something similar, but that’s not going to happen, we don’t have enough soldiers.

 

[wheeler]

Well since it will only be required to operate from St Ives to Gretna Green , perhaps a few hot air balloons will provide the coverage. Once inside the EU ,the other systems will operate just fine

We will have MACNAV north of Gretna.
This will be populated by a geostationary constellation of cube satellites manufactured in Glasgow.

All satnavs in Scotland will use the voices of Shir Shean Connery or Janey Godley.

Glasgow produces more satellites than any other city in Europe, well on the way to being world beating.

 

[oyster]

And there was I thinking that our usual H&S rules mean that washing and toilet facilities should always be kept clean.

And he says campsites will be allowed to open, provided washing facilities and toilets can be kept clean.

 

[wheeler]

I don’t know why we need our own GPS system. What we have works fine. The only down side is that it could be switched off if we invaded another country or something similar, but that’s not going to happen, we don’t have enough soldiers.

We would have had our own system in partnership with the other EU members and we would decide, with the other members, whether it was switched on or off.
Given the reliance of many industries and institutions on the precision timing of GPS the US Department of Defense could cause havoc by switching off or denigrating the signal.
Russia and China wouldn't think twice about monkeying with their systems to harm others.

 

[oyster]

I don’t know why we need our own GPS system. What we have works fine. The only down side is that it could be switched off if we invaded another country or something similar, but that’s not going to happen, we don’t have enough soldiers.

There is opinion that we need higher accuracy/resolution than is currently available for various purposes. That enhanced accuracy might not be available without some sort of privileged access.

Also, making a seamless transition between locations where GPS can work (broadly, outdoors) and where it can't might need some fancy footwork. For example, making a system work indoors, underground, near cliffs, under tree canopy, etc.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I see Good News Guy has emerged from his bunker, where he’s been sheltering from scrutiny and accountability, to announce a relaxation of the two metre distancing rule. This advice comes from the man who very nearly killed himself by getting less than two metres away from someone with Coronavirus.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

There is opinion that we need higher accuracy/resolution than is currently available for various purposes. That enhanced accuracy might not be available without some sort of privileged access.

Also, making a seamless transition between locations where GPS can work (broadly, outdoors) and where it can't might need some fancy footwork. For example, making a system work indoors, underground, near cliffs, under tree canopy, etc.

It’s not been an issue for the past 20 odd years, but I suppose that’s no guarantee of future reliability. I imagine the greatest threat would come during the time of driverless cars. If they were reliant on GPS and a licensing fee was changed, that could cause big problems. The GPS operators could effectively hold a nation to ransom.

 

[wheeler]

At least Tomasz Schafernaker will be able to get his bloody hair cut soon.

 

[flecc]

Glasgow produces more satellites than any other city in Europe, well on the way to being world beating.

Thus making sure that no UK government will release Scotland to independence.
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[flecc]

It’s not been an issue for the past 20 odd years,

The poor accuracy has been, hence the EU going ahead with Galileo.

The US GPS system has much greater accuracy for their military but we are locked out of that. By leaving the EU we are being locked out of Galileo's best accuracy in the same way.

This whole issue is madness, the world should have a single system for everyone to minimise the amount of junk in orbit, but instead the perversity of nations is creating a spacefill tip.
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