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Now CORVID gives virologists an opportunity they could only dream of.
CORVID?

Stone the crows as the saying goes! :D

You're the second I've seen make this mistake, but the other one had the excuse that he's a keen bird watcher.
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The ordure continues to flow, unabated.

This is what taking back control means? Ending up with a contract to a French company.

When they reported:

Eleven days ago, the DHSC announced a new “24/7 military operation” to oversee the supply of PPE to health and care workers. “We’ve had to create a whole new logistics network, essentially from scratch,” Hancock said.

It didn't look as if they had to do so because of the abyss they were peering into. Rather, that we needed to enhance what we have got.

One warehouse seems to be in the all-eggs-in-one-basket idiocy. Given that we have absolutely no idea what is coming down the tracks, having something like six across the UK might have made more sense. If they can't manage temperature control in one of them, they might have managed in the other five. If a roof failed, if a major infrastructure failure precludes supply from Merseyside, and on and on...

Revealed: Private firm running UK PPE stockpile was sold in middle of pandemic

Movianto was also involved in legal disputes with firm that built warehouse to store equipment
by Harry Davies

Wed 22 Apr 2020 10.00 BST

The warehouse appears unremarkable, except for its size. Just off a motorway on an industrial estate in Merseyside sits a 35,000 sq m (377,000 sq ft) purpose-built warehouse with 20 loading docks to enable the storage and rapid distribution of hundreds of millions of face masks, aprons, gowns, gloves and body bags.

For security reasons, the Guardian has been asked not to disclose the precise location of the UK’s stockpile of personal protective equipment (PPE) for use in a pandemic. It is being stored on a site where builders moved the equivalent of more than 90 Olympic–size swimming pools of earth to make way for a vast, climate-controlled warehouse.

However, the Guardian can reveal that the management and the distribution of the stockpile has been outsourced to a private company, Movianto, which was sold two weeks ago for $133m (£107m) by its owner, a large US healthcare group.

The fact that Movianto was being sold in the midst of a global pandemic, months after being instructed by the UK government to start mobilising the PPE supply, would be remarkable enough. But the sale is only the latest development in a turbulent 18 months for Movianto, which has included legal disputes with a property developer who built the enormous warehouse in Merseyside.

The disputes culminated in Movianto securing a high court injunction in March last year, to thwart threats by the developer, Oliver Morley, to “lock the gates” and prevent Movianto employees from accessing the warehoused stock.

Morley’s company has since gone into administration and its legal claims against Movianto have been discontinued, but Morley maintains his legal battles with Movianto were not over. He called for an investigation into the firm, alleging there was “a much bigger story that needs to be told” about his former tenant, but declined to provide specific details.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/revealed-private-firm-running-uk-ppe-stockpile-was-sold-in-middle-of-pandemic
 
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the problem is both virologists and government agencies that sponsor them avoid carefully mention that these vaccines are man made viruses. They use terms like vectors and cell lines to hide the fact that they are man made.
If they were telling you: this virus will 'inhibit' the one you are frightened by, would you like to be injected with either?
I'm sure the Mail and Express could sell that the the Hard of thinking they usually appeal to
As "patriotic" :cool:
 
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CORVID?

Stone the crows as the saying goes! :D

You're the second I've seen make this mistake, but the other one had the excuse that he's a keen bird watcher.
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there must be some subliminal messages somewhere..
 

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the new generation of vaccines are not like the old ones, that's why none of the RNA vaccines has been approved.
Now CORVID gives virologists an opportunity they could only dream of. Not only governments all over the world give them special dispensation, they pay them handsomely for their research!
Have you looked at the way they make the new vaccines?
Just wiki DNA vaccines and RNA vaccines. The one going forward to trial this week is an mRNA vaccine.

quote:
  • The mRNA strand in the vaccine may elicit an unintended immune reaction. To minimise this, the mRNA vaccine sequences are designed to mimic those produced by mammalian cells.[13]
  • Preclinical experience with vaccine candidates for SARS and the Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) have raised concerns about exacerbating lung disease, either directly or as a result of antibody-dependent enhancement.[14]
  • A possible concern could be that some mRNA-based vaccine platforms induce potent type I interferon responses, which have been associated not only with inflammation but also potentially with autoimmunity. Thus, identification of individuals at an increased risk of autoimmune reactions before mRNA vaccination may allow reasonable precautions to be taken.[15]

Since the discovery of in vitro transcribed mRNA expression in vivo following direct administration, in vivo approaches have become more and more attractive.[17] They offer some advantages over ex vivo methods, most significantly by avoiding the cost of harvesting and adapting DCs from patients and by imitating a regular infection. However, there are multiple obstacles for these methods that are yet to be overcome for RNA vaccination to be a potent procedure. Evolutionary mechanisms that prevent the infiltration of unknown nucleic material and promote degradation by RNAses should be avoided in order to initiate translation. In addition, the mobility of RNA on its own is completely dependent on regular cell processes because it is too heavy to diffuse, consequently it is bound to be eliminated, halting translation.
Would you care to write to the Express and Mail to illuminate their readership with that lucid explanation?

Or not, perchance?:rolleyes:
 
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Even in the Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/21/public-health-england-admits-coronavirus-tests-used-send-nhs/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1587543567
Revealed: NHS staff given flawed coronavirus tests
Leaked memo exposes farce as Covid-19 results are less reliable than first thought because of 'degraded' performance

Almost 100,000 NHS and social care workers and their relatives have now undergone tests in an effort to get as many staff back to the frontline as possible.

But the memo, dated April 11, reveals that "discordant results" have been identified in the tests, run by PHE and NHS laboratories, requiring ambiguous samples to be re-checked.

It raises the prospect that thousands of NHS nurses and doctors who were told they were free of coronavirus may have been sent back to work while they were contagious. In other cases, those found to be positive may assume they...
 

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The US state of Missouri is suing China, alleging the country is to blame for the coronavirus pandemic due to an "appalling campaign of deceit' which made the spread of the pandemic worse. https://lbcnews.co.uk/usa/us-state-sues-china-for-appalling-campaign-covid/

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Can we get them to sue Boris and co for the same reason as well?
Would make more sense for Missouri to sue DT who made it worse, worser, and worsest. Indeed, he's having a perfect, beautiful pandemic.

Just remind me of the deaths in China - however many times adjusted - against those in the UK and USA.
 

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We could all interpret this as he (possibly? probably?) meant. But the sheer incompetence of putting these words together in a country being told to socially distance, self-isolate and shield in every direction, is mind-numbingly grotesque.

Raab says the critical ingredient is for the country to come together. He says people understand how important key workers are. We can and will rise to the challenge as one United Kingdom, he says.
 

flecc

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there must be some subliminal messages somewhere..
Maybe a pronunciation thing?

In commonly used words "co", pronounced as in coexist, coincidence and coalesce is commonly followed by vowels, as in those examples.

Although there are many exceptions, "co" followed by consonants commonly has a softer pronunciation as in connect, collateral etc.

Perhaps it's a perception of the unusual and awkward sounding and looking nature of Covid that prompts us into a nearest softer sounding alternative, like corvid?
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