Brexit, for once some facts.

[Barry Shittpeas]

My twitter comment
oldgroaner@oldgroaner

Rats used to bring the plague
This time plague brought the rats

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jacob-rees-moggs-investment-firm-21814351?f

Jacob Rees Mogg's investment firm set to make fortune from the coronavirus crisis
EXCLUSIVE: Somerset Capital Management, which the MP co-founded, says market volatility offers a “once or twice in a generation” opportunity to make “super normal returns”

Vermin!

I just saw that, and also read that we are renting the ExCel centre off Abu Dhabi for £millions. It makes you want to puff your chest out and say how proud you are to be British.

What a fine nation we are.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I see that our “celebrity“ contingent is spreading information regarding 5G mobile telephone masts spreading the Coronavirus. This has caused one mast to be set on fire, telecoms engineers to be attacked and the mayor of Liverpool to receive threats. The brainless c*nt Amanda Holden is one of the main broadcasters of this garbage. Is she so utterly stupid, so unable to think and so needy of attention that she just retransmits whenever enters her ears? What a waste of life. It’s not just her, there are other names that I don’t recognise, but are known to the wider public. I only know Holden’s name because she f*cked her way into the public’s consciousness.

I think we’ve had it, we‘re done for, there’s no hope for this country.

 

[oldgroaner]

I just saw that, and also read that we are renting the ExCel centre off Abu Dhabi for £millions. It makes you want to puff your chest out and say how proud you are to be British.

What a fine nation we are.

You haven't lost that certain style I'm pleased to say!

 

[oyster]

I am on a medicine which is very common. It is also among the cheapest and safest of all medicines. And many patients are on the same dose for years. Yet considerable numbers of patients are stuck on the arbitrary 28-day prescribing. (My GP agreed to 84-day presciptions at my last appointment.)

In the end, these 28-day prescriptions burden GPs to the benefit of pharmacies (who get more dispensing fees). What justification at the best of times? Let alone now.

There isn't even any evidence that there are benefits from shorter period prescribing (for long-term stable medicines). Despite the health establishment insisting on evidence-based medicine at every turn.

 

[oldgroaner]

Hannan reminds me of James Joyce, he is fortunate that he can't share the same fate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/04/need-churchills-can-do-spirit-get-bureaucratic-health-system/

We need Churchill’s can-do spirit to get our bureaucratic health system moving

What we actually need is Churchill's spirit to root out fascists like this man

 

[oyster]

Hannan reminds me of James Joyce, he is fortunate that he can't share the same fate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/04/need-churchills-can-do-spirit-get-bureaucratic-health-system/

We need Churchill’s can-do spirit to get our bureaucratic health system moving

What we actually need is Churchill's spirit to root out fascists like this man

The actual paper behind it appears to be this:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56eddde762cd9413e151ac92/t/5e84ec2f224cce74bd7edb12/1585769520777/ASI+-+Testing+Times+-+Matthew+Lesh+-+FINAL.pdf

Stuff South Korea, let's follow Iceland.

Country Tests per million population Total tests Positive cases Positive cases % Date
Iceland 145,789 16,484 1,086 6.6% 29-March

 

[oldgroaner]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/04/china-fake-news-coronavirus-164652
How China’s fake news machine is rewriting the history of Covid-19, even as the pandemic unfolds
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson’s retweet of an article blaming the U.S. for infecting Wuhan with coronavirus went viral, viewed 160 million times within hours. But where did the story come from?
It came from here
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/3078417/how-chinas-fake-news-machine-rewriting-history

Not really surprising for a Communist regime, and let's be honest our government has started to do the same thing already

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Over the coming days I expect the government’s efforts to move fully behind Operation Hide the Death Toll. Home deaths and further lack of testing will be key to the success of this strategy. They won’t want any nosey medics determine cause of death. Perhaps we can go back to olden days and mark the cause down as “consumption” that should be vague enough to cover it.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/04/china-fake-news-coronavirus-164652
How China’s fake news machine is rewriting the history of Covid-19, even as the pandemic unfolds
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson’s retweet of an article blaming the U.S. for infecting Wuhan with coronavirus went viral, viewed 160 million times within hours. But where did the story come from?
It came from here
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/3078417/how-chinas-fake-news-machine-rewriting-history

Not really surprising for a Communist regime, and let's be honest our government has started to do the same thing already

In the long run, it might have been better to have detonated a 100 mega-ton nuclear weapon on the dirty little effers right at the start. Burn the disease out at its root. A bit extreme, but it could have saved many lives.

 

[sjpt]

Does anyone know if the lag is more or less consistent?
eg next day 30% of final reported total for that day, 2nd day 50%, 3rd day 60%.
Or even an (approximate) formula such as 1 - k^d; k a constant (around 0.6?) and d number of days.

Looks as if it would need to be adjusted for weekends somehow: deaths on 28/29 would be recorded at earliest on 29/30 = weekend. The delay is clearly there, but the 29th date chosen is a really exaggerated example.

Of course there is the separate distortion that many never get collected into the covid-19 stats at all for various reasons. p.s. As Barry Shittpeas mentioned above some reasons that are easily avoidable may well not be avoided.

 

[oyster]

Does anyone know if the lag is more or less consistent?
eg next day 30% of final reported total for that day, 2nd day 50%, 3rd day 60%.
Or even an (approximate) formula such as 1 - k^d; k a constant (around 0.6?) and d number of days.

Looks as if it would need to be adjusted for weekends somehow: deaths on 28/29 would be recorded at earliest on 29/30 = weekend. The delay is clearly there, but the 29th date chosen is a really exaggerated example.

Of course there is the separate distortion that many never get collected into the covid-19 stats at all for various reasons.

Am sure someone, somewhere, is working on the basis of subtracting the usual death rates at this time of year from the total rates and more or less assuming that all excess deaths are due to covid-c19. Directly or indirectly.

Mind, we are likely seeing a reduction in road traffic deaths...

 

[Woosh]

Does anyone know if the lag is more or less consistent?

you can use the accumulated total that cancels most of the lag.
Neil Ferguson seems to confirm 20,000 deaths is still the target.
More importantly, we should welcome Kier Starmer becoming the leader of the opposition.
BJ has had a free run in the last 3 months. He had it easy with JC.

Starmer will go on the technical details - what the government should have done.

 

[sjpt]

Am sure someone, somewhere, is working on the basis of subtracting the usual death rates at this time of year from the total rates and more or less assuming that all excess deaths are due to covid-c19. Directly or indirectly.

Mind, we are likely seeing a reduction in road traffic deaths...

and in the longer term maybe deaths by pollution.

 

[oyster]

I see Hancock has gone into threat mode:

Hancock: you've got to follow the rules or we'll ban all exercise outside

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, has said the government could ban exercise outdoors if people flout lockdown rules.
After saying earlier that sunbathing is against lockdown rules, he told Andrew Marr that if people flout them “we might have to take further action”.
“I understand how difficult these measures are, of course I do. But the truth is the more people go out from home, the more the virus spreads,” he said.
“We’ve said because of the positive benefits to your physical and your mental health that it’s ok to exercise on your own or with members of your own household.
“But if the result of that is that too many people go out and flout the other rules because they say ‘well if I can exercise, then it’s fine for me to do other things’, then I’m afraid we will have to take action.
“My message is really clear, if you don’t want us to have to take the step to ban exercise of all forms outside of your own home then you’ve got to follow the rules.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/05/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-live-news-hancock-starmer

I foresee diabolical consequences if this goes ahead.

 

[Woosh]

I see Hancock has gone into threat mode:

Hancock: you've got to follow the rules or we'll ban all exercise outside

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, has said the government could ban exercise outdoors if people flout lockdown rules.
After saying earlier that sunbathing is against lockdown rules, he told Andrew Marr that if people flout them “we might have to take further action”.
“I understand how difficult these measures are, of course I do. But the truth is the more people go out from home, the more the virus spreads,” he said.
“We’ve said because of the positive benefits to your physical and your mental health that it’s ok to exercise on your own or with members of your own household.
“But if the result of that is that too many people go out and flout the other rules because they say ‘well if I can exercise, then it’s fine for me to do other things’, then I’m afraid we will have to take action.
“My message is really clear, if you don’t want us to have to take the step to ban exercise of all forms outside of your own home then you’ve got to follow the rules.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/05/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-live-news-hancock-starmer

I foresee diabolical consequences if this goes ahead.

he tried to divert the blame away from the government.
it's always somebody else's fault.

 

[oldgroaner]

I see Hancock has gone into threat mode:

Hancock: you've got to follow the rules or we'll ban all exercise outside

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, has said the government could ban exercise outdoors if people flout lockdown rules.
After saying earlier that sunbathing is against lockdown rules, he told Andrew Marr that if people flout them “we might have to take further action”.
“I understand how difficult these measures are, of course I do. But the truth is the more people go out from home, the more the virus spreads,” he said.
“We’ve said because of the positive benefits to your physical and your mental health that it’s ok to exercise on your own or with members of your own household.
“But if the result of that is that too many people go out and flout the other rules because they say ‘well if I can exercise, then it’s fine for me to do other things’, then I’m afraid we will have to take action.
“My message is really clear, if you don’t want us to have to take the step to ban exercise of all forms outside of your own home then you’ve got to follow the rules.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/05/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-live-news-hancock-starmer

I foresee diabolical consequences if this goes ahead.

In the long run, it might have been better to have detonated a 100 mega-ton nuclear weapon on the dirty little effers right at the start. Burn the disease out at its root. A bit extreme, but it could have saved many lives.

The Harry Truman solution, brought up to date, eh?

 

[oldgroaner]

he tried to divert the blame away from the government.
it's always somebody else's fault.

Never of course the government!

 

[flecc]

I am on a medicine which is very common. It is also among the cheapest and safest of all medicines. And many patients are on the same dose for years. Yet considerable numbers of patients are stuck on the arbitrary 28-day prescribing. (My GP agreed to 84-day presciptions at my last appointment.)

I've always been on 56 days, but all done online with pickup from my nominateed pharmacy. If this continues long term I'll ask for a longer period. By good fortune my prescription was renewed just before the lockdown.
.

 

[oyster]

Never of course the government!

A more imaginative solution would be to test people as they go for their exercise sessions (or sunbathing).

Damn! No tests available. There's always a problem...

And, let vitamin D supplements be distributed across the entire UK, for free.

 

[Woosh]

you've got BCG vaccinated, you should be fine.