Brexit, for once some facts.

[Woosh]

Randox here in Antrim (beside airport) have been doing a test kit, apparently £120 - have they been approached by the NHS? NO!!!

the NHS buys tests in bulk from Roche.
The bottle neck is setting up test centres with the right PCR machines for them.

quote:

After the lab starts the test, results are available in about 3.5 hours. The instruments can process up to 384 results (cobas 6800 System) and 960 results (cobas 8800 System) in an 8-hour shift.

 

[Wicky]

the NHS buys tests in bulk from Roche.
The bottle neck is setting up test centres with the right PCR machines for them.

quote:

After the lab starts the test, results are available in about 3.5 hours. The instruments can process up to 384 results (cobas 6800 System) and 960 results (cobas 8800 System) in an 8-hour shift.

Confirmed Just been to local coop and natted with an A&E sister I used to work with, the log jam when testing patients is with the laboratory taking days to process. So hopefully capacity will be scaled up for faster & wider testing. Also they are waiting expectantly for antibody test to find out who's had it.

 

[flecc]

Which might not be popular with owner-drivers and small companies.

Not a problem though, artic couplings are universal.

The trailer can be dropped at the border and hitched by the destination country tractor.

Also you may remember that we had a lorry park trial in Kent to see how we'd cope with Brexit border control. The parking facilities with security added could be used to drop loaded trailers at, for picking up in due course. In that way teams of drivers with tractor units could run shuttle services just to get the trailer loads into this country and return empties.
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[flecc]

Of course you did.. you are still alive. Its the ones who did equally stupid things that didn't who aren't.

You're forgetting serious injuries, I never even suffered any injuries. One well known teen on my estate in a space of less than four years with three accidents broke his left femur, both left forearm bones and both right forearm bones.

Every time I saw him subsequently I mischievously inquired how his right leg was!
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[flecc]

No... Keeping the schools open is assine. Kids share everything.. sandwiches and headlice. They then bring them home . As a containment strategy it is useless.

Trouble is also that although they are now closing tomorrow for most, they will remain open for the children of health workers and other key people who are needed at work.

Same logic as leaving prison doors unlocked as a fire precaution.
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[flecc]

I have got a parcel back from DPD Europe yesterday. It was sent to a customer in France.
DPD told us: France no longer accept parcels from UK due to corona virus.

On the same day, Parcel Force collected from us a parcel for Portugal.

Go figure.

Sad lack of centralised common policies.

Of course if we were in the EU we could get our heads together.

Perhaps we should join, I always thought it was a good idea.
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[oyster]

Just did a little food shopping. No-one seems to be doing anything to ensure that touch screens in self-service tills and PIN pads, etc., are kept clean. I'd have thought they would be real hotspots.

 

[flecc]

Just did a little food shopping. No-one seems to be doing anything to ensure that touch screens in self-service tills and PIN pads, etc., are kept clean. I'd have thought they would be real hotspots.

Indeed, it was these sort of failings that I was trying to convince Danidl of earlier.

I've seen no cleaning of such facilities at the supermarkets and other outlets I've been to, and most are obviously somewhat dirty.

None of the delivery drivers I've seen have gloves or any other visible precautions. Postmen, leaflet deliverers etc are all wandering around using door handles, bell pushes and letter box flaps.

Basically it's everything continuing as normal, no attempts at containment.
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[flecc]

Just did a little food shopping. No-one seems to be doing anything to ensure that touch screens in self-service tills and PIN pads, etc., are kept clean. I'd have thought they would be real hotspots.

And what about the handles on the hundreds of baskets and trolleys?

Each supermarket would have to have one person at least continuously swabbing their way through all those!
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[tommie]

Confirmed Just been to local coop and natted with an A&E sister I used to work with, the log jam when testing patients is with the laboratory taking days to process. So hopefully capacity will be scaled up for faster & wider testing. Also they are waiting expectantly for antibody test to find out who's had it.

small wonder the situation is dire when you hear this......what kind of third world country is this Government living in

Randox here have results with you within 5 hours!! Why haven`t the NHS approached this company??
The new test utilises Randox Biochip Technology, reporting 540 results in less than 5 hours on the Randox Evidence Investigator, a semi-automated analyser that is capable of processing 54 patient samples simultaneously.

Same goes for Biopanda, Belfast....Why haven`t the NHS approached this company, results in 10 minutes!!??
The Biopanda COVID-19 Rapid Test qualitatively detects IgM and IgG antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in human whole blood, serum or plasma samples. This test applies lateral flow immuno-chromatography and is a tool to assist in the diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 infections. It is intended for healthcare professional use only.
Test Attributes

• Whole blood, serum, or plasma may be used for testing
• Results available in only 10 minutes

I`m sure theres many other similar companies in UK/Ireland that could supply, one wonders is there an exclusive rights contract tied up with some multi-nat?? Ie Money

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Just did a little food shopping. No-one seems to be doing anything to ensure that touch screens in self-service tills and PIN pads, etc., are kept clean. I'd have thought they would be real hotspots.

If someone else can touch it, treat it as though is glowing red hot.

 

[oyster]

If someone else can touch it, treat it as though is glowing red hot.

Coronavirus inactivates at 56C in three hours, and half an hour at 70C - or something like that! Red hot would kill it immediately.

 

[oldgroaner]

Words of wisdom

“People are dying who have never died before.” ~ Donald Trump, 3.18.2020

It's the way he tells 'em!

 

[oldgroaner]

Coronavirus inactivates at 56C in three hours, and half an hour at 70C - or something like that! Red hot would kill it immediately.

Must remember to take my Gas torch with me when shopping....

 

[oyster]

Words of wisdom

“People are dying who have never died before.” ~ Donald Trump, 3.18.2020

It's the way he tells 'em!

Not that I don't appreciate your comment...

 

[oldgroaner]

Noticed this afternoon on my bike ride the number of pensioners carrying just one or two shopping bags, poor devils having to walk and be exposed to shop after shop for the few items they can afford to buy

 

[Danidl]

Just did a little food shopping. No-one seems to be doing anything to ensure that touch screens in self-service tills and PIN pads, etc., are kept clean. I'd have thought they would be real hotspots.

That might be so in the UK, but here, only contactless cards, exact change ,and if the purchase is big ..like a fuel fill, Card and sanitiser beside the machine.
I find it vaguely comforting that our PM was an A&E doctor, and the President of the EU council, a medical doctor. Leo gave what was arguably the best speech of his life at the weekend.

 

[oyster]

That might be so in the UK, but here, only contactless cards, exact change ,and if the purchase is big ..like a fuel fill, Card and sanitiser beside the machine.
I find it vaguely comforting that our PM was an A&E doctor, and the President of the EU council, a medical doctor. Leo gave what was arguably the best speech of his life at the weekend.

Despite using contactless cards, the till machine wants to know what you are buying. Fine for barcoded items, not so fine for fruit & veg, bakery goods, messed up barcodes, etc.

They vary as to whether you have to touch the screen to get it to start or you can just start scanning. And how you tell it you have finished and want to pay.

From what I read, Leo did well.

 

[sjpt]

I find it vaguely comforting that our PM was an A&E doctor,

Yes. Big contrast. Still, given our PM, I'm pleased he isn't an A&E doctor

 

[Woosh]

Sad lack of centralised common policies.

Of course if we were in the EU we could get our heads together.

Perhaps we should join, I always thought it was a good idea.
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on further investigation, apparently the French local authorities closed the local facilities because of corona virus, the parcel is returned when no one signed for it.