Brexit, for once some facts.

[Barry Shittpeas]

Just had this call
https://conversation.which.co.uk/money/scam-watch-visa-fraud-department-fake-calls/

£600 pounds out of my account to a foreign country literall word for word.
You would have to be a Conservative Voter to fall for this sort of crap

With volunteer crews?

WTF, and what in the name of all that is Holy has this to do with voting Conservative? I don’t dislike you, but you are warped.

 

[oldgroaner]

Remember we have the likes of Agnew and co to thank for current Tory government. Its attitudes like his that have driven voters away from labour. Ignore him.

Actually it was gullibility on their part for falling for the conservative propaganda,
Why would an attitude that was not critical of labour voters by a forum member on here aimed at the Conservative party make them vote Conservative?
And this happened invisibly before the election?
Even with your circular logic that can't work can it?

What made them change was simply these factors

Unrelenting personal attacks by the Jewish Community on the labour party ignoring the anti semitism of the Tories
The lies of the Press about Labour's "outrageous" economic policies
Promises since abandoned by the ruling junta once known as the Conservative and Unionist party (actually that last bit no longer applies.)

And what did these so clever people achieve?

Boris free to do his pound shop Trump impression as a great builder and moderniser with our money, spending it on fantasy projects to hide the swindles being worked in the background.

And you want us to reason with the idiots that dropped themselves and us into the proverbial, and blame people who tried to warn them?
That is just Plain daft. What good do you think it will do?

 

[oldgroaner]

Sorry old bean, you did make it a racist argument. You said that we can’t deport people because I don’t like the colour of their skin or their religion. That is insinuating my motives are racist.

I want rid of these people because they have raped and inflicted grievous injuries on other people. I believe some have committed sexual crimes against children. There is a legal opportunity to rid ourselves of them, so let’s do it.

Nowhere have I said I want them deported on the grounds of skin colour. You introduced that element, and you did do because you are obsessed and you have no counter argument other than a lie based racist smear.

Carry on, I’m loving this lefty “you are very racist because I disagree with you” attitude.

Oh do give up, why should another country take our rejects because they happen to have originated from there when they were born?
Are you going to do that if they are Scots or Welsh?
Nonsense!
Your motives are obvious unfortunately, these are not trash, they are part of our society, and if they have served their prison sentences for crimes committed, deporting them is simply vindictive.
But then avoiding responsibility has always been the Tory way.

Carry on, I’m loving this righty “you are very calling me racist , because I want to give johnny foreigner our discarded problem human scum” attitude.

Our legal liability is to rehabilitate them, not do dump then on countries they have no experience of in what you regard as an unreformed condition
The racism comes in from the notion that the nation they are being sent to is somehow to blame and must carry the consequences of what these criminals did, and indeed might do in the future.
How very kind of you, and so inferior in morals
What right have you to impose that on them?
If I was in the country They are being sent to, they would remain on the plane to be sent straight back
And how bloody minded to disregard their families who are innocent of any crime, but from your point of view they don't have a right to be considered do they?
Only second hand foreigners living here on sufferance after all not worth of a second thought.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Remember we have the likes of Agnew and co to thank for current Tory government. Its attitudes like his that have driven voters away from labour. Ignore him.

Crumbs. I thought you and Barry voted for brexit and boris? Which part of the relationship between voting for something and getting it are you, er, struggling with?

 

[Zlatan]

Crumbs. I thought you and Barry voted for brexit and boris? Which part of the relationship between voting for something and getting it are you, er, struggling with?

First of all, perhaps you should read rather more carefully, I (reluctantly) voted for Corbyn and secondly labour failed exactly because of the idiotic left policies and know it all self righteous attitude ably demonstrated on here by yourself and that other deranged poster OG.
Boris is actually doing quite a good job, infinitely better than the half wit Labour loony masquerading as a socialist could ever have done. You and OG simply refuse to see or accept the dire straits we, d be in had Labour actually got in power. ( well we can dream)
Your ramblings, and OG's, are utterly futile. Boris is in power and Tories will remain so for at least 10 years becuase you and your ilk have destroyed Labour. Tories are laughing at you all and will be doing for years and years. Thanks.
You, ve given us a one party system and then have audacity to moan at the only option any of us have. You destroy labour and then mock the only remaining option. How stupid is that.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Remember we have the likes of Agnew and co to thank for current Tory government. Its attitudes like his that have driven voters away from labour. Ignore him.

must admit the idea of me driving the likes of you and Barry away from labour gave me a good laugh, thanks for that

 

[jonathan.agnew]

First of all, perhaps you should read rather more carefully, I (reluctantly) voted for Corbyn and secondly labour failed exactly because of the idiotic left policies and know it all self righteous attitude ably demonstrated on here by yourself and that other deranged poster OG.
Boris is actually doing quite a good job, infinitely better than the half wit Labour loony masquerading as a socialist could ever have done. You and OG simply refuse to see or accept the dire straits we, d be in had Labour actually got in power. ( well we can dream)
Your ramblings, and OG's, are utterly futile. Boris is in power and Tories will remain so for at least 10 years becuase you and your ilk have destroyed Labour. Tories are laughing at you all and will be doing for years and years. Thanks.
You, ve given us a one party system and then have audacity to moan at the only option any of us have. You destroy labour and then mock the only remaining option. How stupid is that.

You sound very bitter. More so for a labour voter. And quite conflicted, being as admiring as you are of boris. "Me and my ilk"? What is this, an eighteenth century costume drama? And what do you know of my "ilk"?. Stupid choices have consequences. I gather you voted for brexit. Youre like barry going to have to live with the consequences. They will be long term, and very damaging. Blaming others wont do you much good. Some ownership might. You shouldn't be so bitter, there is more to life than party politics and brexit

 

[oldgroaner]

WTF, and what in the name of all that is Holy has this to do with voting Conservative? I don’t dislike you, but you are warped.

What has this to do with voting for Conservative?
It proves that you are gullible and can be kidded with any old rubbish!

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Oh do give up, why should another country take our rejects because they happen to have originated from there when they were born?
Are you going to do that if they are Scots or Welsh?
Nonsense!
Your motives are obvious unfortunately, these are not trash, they are part of our society, and if they have served their prison sentences for crimes committed, deporting them is simply vindictive.
But then avoiding responsibility has always been the Tory way.

Carry on, I’m loving this righty “you are very calling me racist , because I want to give johnny foreigner our discarded problem human scum” attitude.

Our legal liability is to rehabilitate them, not do dump then on countries they have no experience of in what you regard as an unreformed condition
The racism comes in from the notion that the nation they are being sent to is somehow to blame and must carry the consequences of what these criminals did, and indeed might do in the future.
How very kind of you, and so inferior in morals
What right have you to impose that on them?
If I was in the country They are being sent to, they would remain on the plane to be sent straight back
And how bloody minded to disregard their families who are innocent of any crime, but from your point of view they don't have a right to be considered do they?
Only second hand foreigners living here on sufferance after all not worth of a second thought.

We can’t deport Scottish people to Scotland or Welsh people to Wales, that ridiculous, it’s all part of the U.K.

These people who are being deported are foreign nationals in the eyes of the law. It’s perfectly legal to deport them, they have done terrible things. If they don’t want to face deportation, the answer is splendidly simple, don’t rape, don’t stick knives into people, don’t fkcu children and don’t deal drugs. Everything will be fine if you don’t. And it gets better, nobody is forcing them to do these, they can choose not to fkcu children and stay. In’t Britain brilliant!

What’s not to like?

 

[oldgroaner]

First of all, perhaps you should read rather more carefully, I (reluctantly) voted for Corbyn and secondly labour failed exactly because of the idiotic left policies and know it all self righteous attitude ably demonstrated on here by yourself and that other deranged poster OG.
Boris is actually doing quite a good job, infinitely better than the half wit Labour loony masquerading as a socialist could ever have done. You and OG simply refuse to see or accept the dire straits we, d be in had Labour actually got in power. ( well we can dream)
Your ramblings, and OG's, are utterly futile. Boris is in power and Tories will remain so for at least 10 years becuase you and your ilk have destroyed Labour. Tories are laughing at you all and will be doing for years and years. Thanks.
You, ve given us a one party system and then have audacity to moan at the only option any of us have. You destroy labour and then mock the only remaining option. How stupid is that.

Deranged poster didn't vote for Brexit remember, Boris hasn't actually done anything yet except to add more lies, boasts and promises to his already long list.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

What has this to do with voting for Conservative?
It proves that you are gullible and can be kidded with any old rubbish!

How the fkcu? Please explain the link between bank fraud and voting Tory.

 

[oldgroaner]

We can’t deport Scottish people to Scotland or Welsh people to Wales, that ridiculous, it’s all part of the U.K.

These people who are being deported are foreign nationals in the eyes of the law. It’s perfectly legal to deport them, they have done terrible things. If they don’t want to face deportation, the answer is splendidly simple, don’t rape, don’t stick knives into people, don’t fkcu children and don’t deal drugs. Everything will be fine if you don’t. And it gets better, nobody is forcing them to do these, they can choose not to fkcu children and stay. In’t Britain brilliant!

What’s not to like?

These people aren't "staying" in Britain, they have as much right to be here as you have.
Do you find that hard to grasp for some reason?
Are there two classes of people? those born here who have a right to live here and those who don't?
What happens to the ones born here, or come here as children?
Or as has happened a lot whose parents came here and the Government lost their details? hence the Windrush saga?

 

[oldgroaner]

How the fkcu? Please explain the link between bank fraud and voting Tory.

Only dumb people fall for these bank frauds, as do Tory voters for the lies they are offered
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
How are you going to find the money for Boris's HS2 and the Thousands of Buses he's promised, for a railway you won't get to use and buses you will never ride in?
Is that what you voted for, or is it either

1: You didn't believe what he said
or
2: He lied to you?

 

[oldgroaner]

Boris's way of Bringing the house of lords to heel
Make some of his cronies Lords , and
Daily allowance in the House of Lords will rise to £323

Give them a rise too!

 

[oldgroaner]

Don't forget folks! this is what was promised

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1227229463689203712

Not this
Boris Johnson Brexit deal to cause price hikes and shortages of fresh fruit and vegetables, retail chiefs warn

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

These people aren't "staying" in Britain, they have as mush right to be here as you have.
Do youo find that hard to grasp for some reason?
Are there two classes of people? those born here who have a right to live here and those who don't?
What happens to the ones born here, or come here as children?
Or as has happened a lot whose parents came here and the Government lost their details? hence the Windrush saga?

There is absolutely no link to Windrush and the deported criminals. Diane Abbott tried that and fell flat on her stupid arse. So you can forget that one.

Every single one of the deported people in question is not a U.K. citizen. They are all foreign nationals with no U.K. citizenship status. They have gone through a full recognised process and it has been ruled that they should not remain in the U.K.

No one forced any of them to fkcu a child, rape a woman or knife someone. They chose to do that, now sane people and those who don’t like rape and child fkcuing don’t want to host them any longer.

 

[oldgroaner]

We can’t deport Scottish people to Scotland or Welsh people to Wales, that ridiculous, it’s all part of the U.K.

These people who are being deported are foreign nationals in the eyes of the law. It’s perfectly legal to deport them, they have done terrible things. If they don’t want to face deportation, the answer is splendidly simple, don’t rape, don’t stick knives into people, don’t fkcu children and don’t deal drugs. Everything will be fine if you don’t. And it gets better, nobody is forcing them to do these, they can choose not to fkcu children and stay. In’t Britain brilliant!

What’s not to like?

The consequences for relatives and children who are innocent, but you don't give a damn about them do you?

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Only dumb people fall for these bank frauds, as do Tory voters for the lies they are offered
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
How are you going to find the money for Boris's HS2 and the Thousands of Buses he's promised, for a railway you won't get to use and buses you will never ride in?
Is that what you voted for, or is it either

1: You didn't believe what he said
or
2: He lied to you?

Boris probably lied. I’ve never claimed he’s anything else but a liar. He’s a better option than Labour. That’s how bad Labour have become. You are living proof of Labour’s lunacy.

 

[oldgroaner]

There is absolutely no link to Windrush and the deported criminals. Diane Abbott tried that and fell flat on her stupid arse. So you can forget that one.

Every single one of the deported people in question is not a U.K. citizen. They are all foreign nationals with no U.K. citizenship status. They have gone through a full recognised process and it has been ruled that they should not remain in the U.K.

No one forced any of them to fkcu a child, rape a woman or knife someone. They chose to do that, now sane people and those who don’t like rape and child fkcuing don’t want to host them any longer.

So why did the judge think otherwise?
For your information you and I are not Citizens of the UK
No one is.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

The consequences for relatives and children who are innocent, but you don't give a damn about them do you?

Don’t recall saying that. Are you hallucinating?