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I don’t think we could feel the same sense of pride at torturing a drugged bull to death in front of an ecstatic crowd, as the Spanish.
True, we weren't brave enough. We preferred to have cockerels fighting each other while we kept well out of the way in case we got pecked.

That was of course after the bear baiting and before the otter hunting.

That's all in the past of course, now we prefer to either stab each other or four or more against one, punch and kick someone to death.
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Used to have one myself - hydro-elastic suspension i think they called it, it would start to leak out green fluid,

then the sub-frame would break
I didn’t know that model had hydro-elastic suspension. I thought it was introduced around the time of the Allagro.
 

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True, we weren't brave enough. We preferred to have cockerels fighting each other while we kept well out of the way in case we got pecked.

That was of course after the bear baiting and before the otter hunting.

That's all in the past of course, now we prefer to either stab each other or four or more against one, punch and kick someone to death.
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I don’t think any of those activities were ever as mainstream as bull torturing is in Spain.

I remember seeing a documentary where they interviewed an ex Spanish bull torturer. A bull had broken the torturer’s leg very badly and destroyed his knee. He’d had a section of infected bone removed making one leg 50 CM shorter than the other. He had to wear one of those big clomping shoes (like a Herman Munster boot, but only on one foot) to compensate. I couldn’t stop laughing for a week.

I’ve always wondered about those big shoes. Do you have to buy a pair and throw one away? Anyone?
 
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I didn’t know that model had hydro-elastic suspension. I thought it was introduced around the time of the Allagro.
Yes, the whole line of 1100s and 1300 had hydroelastic suspension, as did the Minis from 1964 on. In fact the Morris 1100 ADO16 was the first of their cars to get the system in 1962.

The Allegro wasn't introduced until 1979.
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I don’t think any of those activities were ever as mainstream as bull torturing is in Spain.
Oh I think every village enjoyed the cock fights, those were cruel days, to people as well as animals and there wasn't much entertainment about if there was no witch to drown or blasphemer to burn at the stake.

I remember seeing a documentary where they interviewed an ex Spanish bull torturer. A bull had broken the torturer’s leg very badly and destroyed his knee. He’d had a section of infected bone removed making one leg 50 CM shorter than the other. He had to wear one of those big clomping shoes (like a Herman Munster boot, but only on one foot) to compensate. I couldn’t stop laughing for a week.
I saw that too. A fair number of them do get very badly injured and sometimes killed.

I’ve always wondered about those big shoes. Do you have to buy a pair and throw one away? Anyone?
As now probably, prosthetics made for each individual.
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Yes, the whole line of 1100s and 1300 had hydroelastic suspension, as did the Minis from 1964 on. In fact the Morris 1100 ADO16 was the first of their cars to get the system in 1962.

The Allegro wasn't introduced until 1979.
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Interesting. I didn’t realise it went that far back.
 

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On a different political note, if you thought Greta Thunberg is an original, nearly three decades ago in 1992, 12 year old Severn Cullis-Suzuki addressed the delegates at the UN Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. She covered the whole environmental issue very effectively, not just climate change.

You can learn more about that on this link.
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Interesting. I didn’t realise it went that far back.
Hydrolastic was actually intended by Alex Issigonis to be on the Minis from day one, but it wasn't developed enough in time so appeared three years later on the 1100 and five years later on the MIni.

However it was another Alex who invented it, rubber engineer Alex Moulton, also of cycling fame.
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I don’t think any of those activities were ever as mainstream as bull torturing is in Spain.

I remember seeing a documentary where they interviewed an ex Spanish bull torturer. A bull had broken the torturer’s leg very badly and destroyed his knee. He’d had a section of infected bone removed making one leg 50 CM shorter than the other. He had to wear one of those big clomping shoes (like a Herman Munster boot, but only on one foot) to compensate. I couldn’t stop laughing for a week.

I’ve always wondered about those big shoes. Do you have to buy a pair and throw one away? Anyone?
Barry, this sensitivity lark is very recent. Public hangings, corpses left rotting in iron cages, bull baiting, badger baiting , bears done to death by dogs, ..all good clean fun for country folk. The city folk enjoyed the stews , with the cockerel etc.
 
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On a different political note, if you thought Greta Thunberg is an original, nearly three decades ago in 1992, 12 year old Severn Cullis-Suzuki addressed the delegates at the UN Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. She covered the whole environmental issue very effectively, not just climate change.

You can learn more about that on this link.
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"... They were not listening then, they are not listening now ,perhaps they never will " ... Vincent Don McClean
 

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Hydrolastic was actually intended by Alex Issigonis to be on the Minis from day one, but it wasn't developed enough in time so appeared three years later on the 1100 and five years later on the MIni.

However it was another Alex who invented it, rubber engineer Alex Moulton, also of cycling fame.
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A friend of mine at school had a Moulton Deluxe bike. A strange looking small wheeled machine with rubber suspension.
 
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