Brexit, for once some facts.

tillson

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funny that, I was simply quoting you, verbatim, simply substituting the right wing for the eu. er, does that make you a fool blocking progress?
Again, I must say that I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You aren't making any sense.
 

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Africans are much better at survival, they have been at it for a very long time. The industrial revolution destroyed the survival instinct in northern Europe.

I wasn't talking about myself, I have always been mobile and reasonably well educated. I was talking mostly about the workers of the industrial north. The able ones got out when the factories closed and went to greener pastures. The under educated or the not so competent were stranded. Those are the ones that are difficult to get out of poverty.

The ones that moved have had mixed luck, some saw the job they moved to go the same way as the one they had lost! Most were able to be reconverted to different lines of work.
I'm not sure about that. I think relative deprivation has much to answer for. and Africans suffer from that as much as Europeans, feeling unhappy because they don't have as much as they imagine others do (in another country, city, life). its clichéd but quality of life has little to do with money and lots with what one does. I have a friend who lives on a hunter delta (25ft sailboat one can pick up for maybe five thousand euro) with partner and toddler in marina in Baie des Anges, doing art therapy for little money, happy as one can be, and know a social worker in Maputo living in what could seem poverty, but is a beautiful city/place. the deprivation the "poor and the weak" experience in the uk has a very great deal to do with their perspective
 
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big difference: the owner of this forum does not 'sell' your email address or what they know about you to advertisers.
 
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oldgroaner

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here's a new one I hadn't heard before.
"Brexitsplit Britain"
from a reader comment in the Independent
 
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I do love it when people use forums to moan about facebook. lol.

its the same thing.
I'm not moaning about it because it isn't worthy of even a small groan.

I'm sorry it isn't the same thing. I was doing forums when the rich fb brat was still wearing nappies. He came along much later said that he had invented something much cooler/better than forums and that we should all sign up. I looked at facebook, found nothing of interest and moved on.

I did sign on to Google+ which allows me to communicate privately with my family and friends. Seeing that G+ allowed you to do that, facebook then "invented" that for its users too about 18 months later.
 
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trex

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Facebook don't sell your email address! They just let their "sponsors" advertise to you, which is exactly what we do on here.

https://www.facebook.com/help/152637448140583
not your email address but they supply enough information to the ad servers to link your fb profile to your search profile. The result: you see ads that are relevant to items you recently looked up on ebay or google or bing or amazon or alibaba.
Here, advertisers have no way of figuring out what you like and don't like. Wouldn't it be nice if advertisers know that you are in the market for a new 16" folding bike for example?
 
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tillson

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I'm not moaning about it because it isn't worthy of even a small groan.

I'm sorry it isn't the same thing. I was doing forums when the rich fb brat was still wearing nappies. He came along much later said that he had invented something much cooler/better than forums and that we should all sign up. I looked at facebook, found nothing of interest and moved on.

I did sign on to Google+ which allows me to communicate privately with my family and friends. Seeing that G+ allowed you to do that, facebook then "invented" that for its users too about 18 months later.
Facebook has its uses. I've been using it for years and more recently, I have found it particularly good for sharing club information. I set up a page for my regional hot-air balloon club so that we can share our plans to go flying, update land owner information and discus airworthiness and training issues. The same goes for the running club to which I belong, we publish our individual plans to go out running and meet up with others for company, publish club night training schedules and a host of other things.

It works very well, and although a forum can be used for these things, I find Facebook is geared more towards the social interaction which is associated with a club or society. Twitter is also a very good source of information.

They clearly harvest your browsing data and sell that to advertisers. For example, I have recently been looking for a suction cup to pull the front panel off my iMac computer. Spookily my Facebook page is now littered with adverts for these devices. Well that's how I explained it to the wife.
 
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D8ve

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I have a knife sharpener, it has a very good suction base. That's what I would use for the job.:)
 
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tillson

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I have a knife sharpener, it has a very good suction base. That's what I would use for the job.:)
That's an excellent suggestion, thanks. I'll search the kitchen cupboards in the morning, there must be something in there.
 

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Please be careful, liking two of my posts in the brexit thread, people will talk!
 
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According to the Excess this morning
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Public DEMANDS hard Brexit: 70 per cent want UK to END immigration when it quits EU"
Really? From the Express that is more usually 110%
However this is rather odd
"However the survey also revealed 90 per cent of voters also want Britain to stay in the single market - presenting a problem for the government as EU politicians have ruled out any free trade deal without freedom of movement."

It's National Have Cake and Eat it Day in the Express.

It seems they are drifting away from the sentiments of their readership looking at the tone of the readers comments
 
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