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Why is it that there are a disproportionate amount of gay people in TV programs and shows?
There's always been a disproportionately high number of gays in the arts, but in earlier discriminatory times they mainly kept a rather lower profile. Now with legalisation and more open acceptance, I think there may sometimes be over compensation to redress the past, both by gays and those engaging them.

That same over compensation may be present in the ethnicity and colour questions.

I think all eventually a good thing, with greater tolerance gradually settling acceptance down to equitable levels. We've been living though exactly the same thing with women's equality, considerable over compensation in many cases, some still present now, but gradually settling with time.
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Good question. In this case we can clearly identify the two gay panel members as being culpable, but I would say that it goes a lot deeper than that. The key players in the TV company must have been aware of what was going on, so one might say that they condoned it. Why would they condone it? Could it be that some other party were sponsoring the TV company to push a pro LGBT agenda?

here in the UK, we can see that BBC, Channel 4, Sky TV and ITV all seem to be pushing certain agendas. Why is it that there are a disproportionate amount of gay people in TV programs and shows? Why is it that non-ethnic white people are disproportionally represented in adverts, programmes and shows? Normally, I'd say that it's just progressiveness until you compare Australian Sky News with UK Sky news. You would think that they have the same ultimate bosses, but they're diametrically opposite regarding the narratives and agendas they push. The only way I can rationalise that is that they rely on different sponsors, however that works.

Do you have an explanation for who "they" might be, and how it came to be that the most popular and talented act that the Romanian people chose to represent them was replaced by a rather less than average act that had little chance of winning the competition?
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The reason why" gays." .a word I extremely dislike are over represented in the performing arts area has to do with self selection. They will tend to have congregated into performance high ego activities . In similar fashion as to why the prevalence of autism is higher in high tech hubs, because engineers marry other engineers and have bright children.
 
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No..
The reason why" gays." .a word I extremely dislike are over represented in the performing arts area has to do with self selection. They will tend to have congregated into performance high ego activities . In similar fashion as to why the prevalence of autism is higher in high tech hubs, because engineers marry other engineers and have bright children.
but why then the disproportionate representation of ethnicities?
Do you have a theory on why Lara wan't allowed to represent Romania?
 

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OK, blame this on my lack of exposure to alt right politics. But what in the world is a "non-ethnic white person"??????
I can't believe that you're so thick as not to understand what I mean! If, however, you are so unfortunate to be afflicted in such a way, I apologise and you have my full sympathy. Just ask again and I'll explain.
 
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There's always been a disproportionately high number of gays in the arts, but in earlier discriminatory times they mainly kept a rather lower profile. Now with legalisation and more open acceptance, I think there may sometimes be over compensation to redress the past, both by gays and those engaging them.

That same over compensation may be present in the ethnicity and colour questions.

I think all eventually a good thing, with greater tolerance gradually settling acceptance down to equitable levels. We've been living though exactly the same thing with women's equality, considerable over compensation in many cases, some still present now, but gradually settling with time.
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I'm not sure ethnicity and sexual orientation are as key to our choices, decisions and opportunities. Cant speak for anyone else but in my life my gender, sexual orientation and perceived ethnicity have had no bearing I can detect on where I ended up professionally.
 
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Observer front page:

Johnson ‘will have to call second referendum if he fails to win majority’
With Opinium poll showing his lead narrowing, academics warn PM could need support of minority parties for Brexit deal

Boris Johnson could be forced into holding a second referendum on Brexit next summer if he fails to win a majority in the House of Commons but remains as prime minister, according to a new report by academics at University College London.

The detailed analysis of how a referendum could be triggered, how long it would take, and how it would work concludes that a second public vote – in which the options would most likely be Johnson’s deal versus remaining in the EU – would be very much on the cards if the Conservatives are denied a majority, or are returned with only a very slender one, on 12 December.

The report – by UCL’s constitution unit in collaboration with research initiative UK in a Changing Europe – is a reminder of the high stakes, and high risk, of the election to Johnson. Although the latest Opinium poll for the Observer gives the Tories a 15-point lead over Labour with less than a fortnight until polling day, the gap has narrowed by four points since a week ago.

 
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Observer front page:

Johnson ‘will have to call second referendum if he fails to win majority’
With Opinium poll showing his lead narrowing, academics warn PM could need support of minority parties for Brexit deal

Boris Johnson could be forced into holding a second referendum on Brexit next summer if he fails to win a majority in the House of Commons but remains as prime minister, according to a new report by academics at University College London.

The detailed analysis of how a referendum could be triggered, how long it would take, and how it would work concludes that a second public vote – in which the options would most likely be Johnson’s deal versus remaining in the EU – would be very much on the cards if the Conservatives are denied a majority, or are returned with only a very slender one, on 12 December.

The report – by UCL’s constitution unit in collaboration with research initiative UK in a Changing Europe – is a reminder of the high stakes, and high risk, of the election to Johnson. Although the latest Opinium poll for the Observer gives the Tories a 15-point lead over Labour with less than a fortnight until polling day, the gap has narrowed by four points since a week ago.

As if anyone would trust his word when the Conservatives are so much indebted to Russian money to harm the EU
A lot of heads would need kicking by a lot of horses to fall for that porky.
 
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In the Express
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Boris Johnson unleashes fury over 70 freed terrorists following London Bridge attack
BORIS JOHNSON has reacted furiously to the news that dozens of convicted terrorists have been released from prison in recent years.


As if the Conservatives and their cuts have no responsibility on the matter...
 
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As if anyone would trust his word when the Conservatives are so much indebted to Russian money to harm the EU
A lot of heads would need kicking by a lot of horses to fall for that porky.
If I were a big pharma in the US, I would invest a billion $ or two to get the UK accepting all US patents.
 

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If I were a big pharma in the US, I would invest a billion $ or two to get the UK accepting all US patents.
Ironically, the medicine I currently most care about was never patented - neither in the UK nor in the USA. Yet the price is already ludicrous.
 
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Why would you assume that I would have any interest in an entertainment programme, separated by 15 countries, and 450 million people, ?.
I didn't assume anything. I've no idea what you're interested in; however, you did ask who the "they" were, did you not? I expressed my opinion, and as normal debate, I was hoping that you'd express yours, but I guess you find the situation too scary to consider.

To me, it implies that there are things going on, where the will of the common people, is not only being ignored, but actively subverted to promote agendas that are common through politics, entertainment, education and media. You can see how the same people and organisations that are pro remain, tend to promote the same agendas, which all seem to go together, e.g. shutting down free speech, collecting private information and personal profiling, undermining basic family values and the traditional British way of life, etc. Piece by piece, all the bits of the jigsaw are coming together. It's early days in the project, but you can see that every additional piece fits the picture of control of the masses by the elites - straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

When I was a left wing communist student, we were all for workers rights and anti-exploitation of the poor and the working classes. Now, when I stand up for miners' or steel-workers' rights, I'm considered extreme right wing. What I don't understand is why today's communists have flipped to such an extent. Do you have an explanation for that or is it something else that doesn't interest you because it's too scary to talk about?

This isn't a diversion. It's fundamentally what Brexit is all about.
 

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