Brexit, for once some facts.

Zlatan

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Why isnt Corbyn making same point as Woosh. Yes, he (Corbyn) intends to spend billions on country (which it needs and is only reason I, m voting Corbyn) but its only taking us to similar levels of spending to many other European countries??
Right wing press are having a field day and unfortunately Corbyn does his normal performance. He doesnt fight and oppose the views. Labour should be screaming our country and its people deserve similar levels of spending and care to our EU counterparts.
All we hear is such as 50's comments arguing we cant afford it. France, Sweden and many others can and perform better for it.
Can somebody please tell me exactly what Corbyn /Labour have actually done (not alledged) for a leading religous figure to stick his oar in.
A Jewish chap last night was telling us all (on BBC) that Corbyn and Labour are very very dangerous for country regarding racism. Nobody asked him "why". Yes, we all know JC sympathizes with Palestinians. (JC should have kept that quiet, again showing political ineptitude) but that hardly makes it dangerous for Jews here. Does it?
Perhaps they dont like his initials.
 
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I’d like to see a move towards more centre ground. I’m sort of hoping it will be achieved with a Tory win, but Johnson kept on a very short leash, unable to make progress with Brexit.

Lots of risks involved.
The best way to keep Johnson on a short leash is for the whole Labour vote to turn out. They won't win, but it will leave Johnson with a restricted majority.

The worst thing is for Labour's vote to fall well short, since that will bring hard Brexit and an even harder time for the majority of the people.
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Danidl

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Why isnt Corbyn making same point as Woosh. Yes, he (Corbyn) intends to spend billions on country (which it needs and is only reason I, m voting Corbyn) but its only taking us to similar levels of spending to many other European countries??
Right wing press are having a field day and unfortunately Corbyn does his normal performance. He doesnt fight and oppose the views. Labour should be screaming our country and its people deserve similar levels of spending and care to our EU counterparts.
All we hear is such as 50's comments arguing we cant afford it. France, Sweden and many others can and perform better for it.
Can somebody please tell me exactly what Corbyn /Labour have actually done (not alledged) for a leading religous figure to stick his oar in.
A Jewish chap last night was telling us all (on BBC) that Corbyn and Labour are very very dangerous for country regarding racism. Nobody asked him "why". Yes, we all know JC sympathizes with Palestinians. (JC should have kept that quiet, again showing political ineptitude) but that hardly makes it dangerous for Jews here. Does it?
Perhaps they dont like his initials.
I am inclined to agree with you . The very little I have seen...and I watched a bit of the BJ JC "debate" and some of JC interview yesterday, show a tired but patient man. Someone you might wish for a confessor or mentor, but not at all dynamic. Labour has a strong case, but it is being..laboured . He should and could be more forceful. His arguments are logical ,but not impassioned.
 

50Hertz

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Labour are not under investigation

I'm not getting any deeper with this. You are incorrect and displaying Gerald levels of ignorance. I will not be spending anymore time on this matter.

It's a false flag. The amount of hysteria and media coverage over this is utterly ridiculous.

You and your lot are the racist element in this country. Not Jeremy Corbyn.

It's deflection and projection and of course you suck it up.
I have quoted you directly (cut and paste) from the EHRC website. They are crystal clear in that they are conducting an investigation into the Labour Party. You now realise that my original statement is true, but you are too small to admit your mistake. You are feigning disinterest as a diversion to your inadequacy and shortcomings.

Bring on the next topic. I look forward to humiliating you again.
 
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50Hertz

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Another uncalled for verbal slight from you.
Your behaviour marks you as a deliberate plant.
Who are you working for to cause disruption Fingers?
Is the pay good?
He’s not working for anyone, who would employ a class act idiot like him? (Apart from the Shitsville Exchange & Matt).
 
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Fingers

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I have quoted you directly (cut and paste) from the EHRC website. They are crystal clear in that they are conducting an investigation into the Labour Party. You now realise that my original statement is true, but you are too small to admit your mistake. You are feigning disinterest as a diversion to your inadequacy and shortcomings.

Bring on the next topic. I look forward to humiliating you again.

You are misinterpreting the data.

It's common amongst arrogant people.

You don't realise you are wrong. I genuinely believe you think you are correct so I am not taking this as a personal slight. I just feel pity really.

You will believe anything if it comes from a source you WANT to believe.

Shame. You are literally one

generation away from the greatest generation. How did it go from that to you?

If I was so inclined I would do a study on it. Maybe employ Dan to study you.

You fascinate me.
 

Fingers

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He’s not working for anyone, who would employ a class act idiot like him? (Apart from the Shitsville Exchange & Matt).

You are getting triggerd.

Walk away from the computer and give yourself a break for an hour or so.
 
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Zlatan

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I, m beginning to question how any body could actually vote for Johnson. Yes, Corbyn has his faults and his spending plan is ambitious and probably dangerous.(probably not spending is morw dangeeous tho) Johnson on the other hand is a proven liar withproven incompetence and has simply ridden the leave train in his personal ambition to be pm. Even if folk still support leave you, d have thought BJ had done enough to educate any sensible folk off voting for him. He really is simply trying to buy votes whereas Corbyn does believe in what he, s doing.
Which one would change his views, beliefs and politics to be our PM? We all know the answer to that. BJ simply says what people want to hear. He knows saying he cant afford to pay the Waspi women will gain more support than it loses. It makes him look careful with our cash. Corbyn sees a wrong has been done and tries to right it. BJ is the conman.
 

50Hertz

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I, m beginning to question how any body could actually vote for Johnson. Yes, Corbyn has his faults and his spending plan is ambitious and probably dangerous.(probably not spending is morw dangeeous tho) Johnson on the other hand is a proven liar withproven incompetence and has simply ridden the leave train in his personal ambition to be pm. Even if folk still support leave you, d have thought BJ had done enough to educate any sensible folk off voting for him. He really is simply trying to buy votes whereas Corbyn does believe in what he, s doing.
Which one would change his views, beliefs and politics to be our PM? We all know the answer to that. BJ simply says what people want to hear. He knows saying he cant afford to pay the Waspi women will gain more support than it loses. It makes him look careful with our cash. Corbyn sees a wrong has been done and tries to right it. BJ is the conman.
I totally agree with your thoughts on Johnson. He’s a proven liar who is unfit for office However, remember that Corbyn came up with the WASPI, fifty eight thousand million pound plan in the space of 48 hours.

The WASPI plan was not in the Labour manifesto at launch, the WASPI plan was not mentioned in the leadership tv debate when Johnson was getting a hard time on women’s pensions either. Both of these events took place within 48 hours of the fifty eight thousand million pound announcement. What kind of irresponsible idiot spends the nations money with such little forethought?

This is an ill thought out reckless spend which will actually benefit our household by roughly £10K. It crazy, just like Labour’s spending.

I still think Johnson with a majority which means that he has to make massive compromises is just about the best chance of achieving some kind of middle ground.
 
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50Hertz

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You are getting triggerd.

Walk away from the computer and give yourself a break for an hour or so.
Au contraire my friend, I’m sat with Puff Daddy on the deck of his yacht in the Caribbean. We are drinking vintage champagne whilst discussing what a c#*! you are. :oops:
 
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50Hertz

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You are misinterpreting the data.

It's common amongst arrogant people.

You don't realise you are wrong. I genuinely believe you think you are correct so I am not taking this as a personal slight. I just feel pity really.

You will believe anything if it comes from a source you WANT to believe.

Shame. You are literally one

generation away from the greatest generation. How did it go from that to you?

If I was so inclined I would do a study on it. Maybe employ Dan to study you.

You fascinate me.
I don’t think it’s possible to misinterpret the words, we are investigating the Labour Party, when the investigating body writes them.

What do you think?
 

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