An interesting thread on the timetable over the next couple of weeks
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I thought Danidl was a bot which auto-responded using a very clever and complex algorithm, albeit needing a bit more tweaking, to generate the replies. I had no idea it was a real person. I’ll back off a bit.
I was baffled that the Express could print the following paragraph and even more unlikely they have connected it positively with not merely the Conservative party, but even the most rabid among them "The Boris"
"At last, the generational problems which have beset this nation on health, social care, policing, immigration and much more can begin to be tackled in a meaningful way. No longer will we be held back by the Brussels bureaucracy and forced to pour billions of taxpayers' pounds a year into the black hole of EU finance. The prize could not be greater for Britain - and this would be just the beginning as new free trade deals and opening up to the rest of the world will see this country flourish and prosper. "
This is beyond belief, the authors of those problems not merely lying about their responsibility for creating them, but pretending they will change their ways to the extent of undoing what is for them the sum total of a lifetime's exertions to rip off the nation.
"At last, the generational problems which have beset this nation on health, social care, policing, immigration and much more can begin to be tackled in a meaningful way. No longer will we be held back by the Brussels bureaucracy and forced to pour billions of taxpayers' pounds a year into the black hole of EU finance. The prize could not be greater for Britain - and this would be just the beginning as new free trade deals and opening up to the rest of the world will see this country flourish and prosper. "
This is beyond belief, the authors of those problems not merely lying about their responsibility for creating them, but pretending they will change their ways to the extent of undoing what is for them the sum total of a lifetime's exertions to rip off the nation.
So NI will be in CU, Wales will have different migration rules, ... , how is this keeping us together?
The Home Office is calling on an expert body to assess whether post-Brexit migration rules should be different in Wales.
It comes as part of a UK government consultation on a minimum £30,000 salary for skilled migrants seeking five-year visas.
A review by a leading economist warned the salary threshold would hit Wales harder than the rest of the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48749468
The Home Office is calling on an expert body to assess whether post-Brexit migration rules should be different in Wales.
It comes as part of a UK government consultation on a minimum £30,000 salary for skilled migrants seeking five-year visas.
A review by a leading economist warned the salary threshold would hit Wales harder than the rest of the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48749468
6.4% is a pretty large drop in GDP. Of course, the full article acknowledges the ways in which this prediction might be wrong and could be, to some extent, ameliorated. But still...
Based on the reduction in trade alone, under May’s deal (assuming no productivity effect, on which more in a moment) income per capita would have been 1.7% lower than under membership. The equivalent figure for the Johnson deal is 2.5%, while that for a World Trade Organization Brexit (no trade deal at all) is 3.3%.
However, economists are convinced that reductions in trade also affect productivity. The literature suggests that a 1% decline in trade reduces income per capita by about 0.5%. If, then, we combine this productivity effect with the trade impacts summarised above, we arrive at per capita GDP figures of -4.9%, -6.4% and -8.1% for May’s deal, Johnson’s proposals and a WTO Brexit respectively, as compared with membership.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/13/boris-johnson-brexit-deal-theresa-may-trade
Based on the reduction in trade alone, under May’s deal (assuming no productivity effect, on which more in a moment) income per capita would have been 1.7% lower than under membership. The equivalent figure for the Johnson deal is 2.5%, while that for a World Trade Organization Brexit (no trade deal at all) is 3.3%.
However, economists are convinced that reductions in trade also affect productivity. The literature suggests that a 1% decline in trade reduces income per capita by about 0.5%. If, then, we combine this productivity effect with the trade impacts summarised above, we arrive at per capita GDP figures of -4.9%, -6.4% and -8.1% for May’s deal, Johnson’s proposals and a WTO Brexit respectively, as compared with membership.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/13/boris-johnson-brexit-deal-theresa-may-trade
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From the Telegraph this morning
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Fury as EU demands more Brexit concessions
And the Express
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Brexit fury as Cabinet minister tears into EU for its demands for further UK concessions
A CABINET minister has reacted with fury over the EU’s demands for further concessions from the UK in Brexit talks, accusing Brussels of deliberately throwing obstacles in the way of a deal.
The strange thing is neither paper actually list what the further concessions are!
Looks like Bojo's record for continuous failures is unbroken, he's beginning to make Grayling look good!
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Fury as EU demands more Brexit concessions
And the Express
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Brexit fury as Cabinet minister tears into EU for its demands for further UK concessions
A CABINET minister has reacted with fury over the EU’s demands for further concessions from the UK in Brexit talks, accusing Brussels of deliberately throwing obstacles in the way of a deal.
The strange thing is neither paper actually list what the further concessions are!
Looks like Bojo's record for continuous failures is unbroken, he's beginning to make Grayling look good!
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Looks like "if you want violence against women to continue, vote against the Queen's speech" brigade are out in force.
That the tories have been in power for years, yet they have not yet managed to pass appropriate legislation for this is ignored, brushed under the carpet.
Same basic argument for most of what has been said so far.
They are not real, the tories are goading.
That the tories have been in power for years, yet they have not yet managed to pass appropriate legislation for this is ignored, brushed under the carpet.
Same basic argument for most of what has been said so far.
They are not real, the tories are goading.
Useful, I've got a degree of left-right ambivalence, so used to trail a local for a few miles after arriving in Calais until being on the other side felt ok. Recently I bought a (four year old, bog standard s85 so this isnt bragging) tesla with lane departure avoidance, which helps.
Generally I have no difficulty with this Left and Right ,.there is usually enough clues in road furniture, road markings that I don't make that error, when travelling in France. However there can be a moment of indecision,on a country road without markings. If ever, the problem will not occur in the first few hours, when one is hyper sensitive, but after the third day, complacency sets in.
Its when I come home to UK I feel more likely to make the mistake. I actually find it easier with a right hand drive car abroad than hiring. Just keep to kerb...
Its an easy mistake to make, I, ve done it...in UK. Luckily road empty and realised after 20yards or so.
One is dropping a hint perchance?
Anne Louise Avery@AnneLouiseAvery · 1h
It's not too heavy, that magnificent woman won't wear the Crown, won't defile it with this illegitimate, criminal charade. The symbolism of not wearing it, of it sitting next to her like a severed head of state sends such an extraordinarily powerful message.
Neither of them appears to be happy!
This tweet tickled my fancy
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Day Necromancy
@dayclancy
No one can convince me that Britain is an actual place where actual people live
Anne Louise Avery@AnneLouiseAvery · 1h
It's not too heavy, that magnificent woman won't wear the Crown, won't defile it with this illegitimate, criminal charade. The symbolism of not wearing it, of it sitting next to her like a severed head of state sends such an extraordinarily powerful message.
Neither of them appears to be happy!
This tweet tickled my fancy
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Day Necromancy
@dayclancy
No one can convince me that Britain is an actual place where actual people live
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Government announces plan to prevent UK citizens voting without photo ID
‘There is no evidence’ to justify new scheme, expert says, as Labour accuses Johnson of attempting to rig the next general election
www.independent.co.uk
That'll keep the riff raff away - apart from he Queen, as she can wave a tenner as ID...
That's right, this country gets more and more like an historic theme park all the time. That's reaching its logical conclusion now with figures from the 19th century in government.
Day Necromancy
@dayclancy
No one can convince me that Britain is an actual place where actual people live
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she was visibly in discomfort reading that rubbish.
who wrote that speech I wonder.
I did enjoy the pageantry - all that glitter is something.
That's a job for Pinewood Studios, producing historic fiction paid for by the commercial world that those who want it can enjoy. I don't know if you are aware of it, but much of that pageantry is fake history, created by Queen Victoria. A glance at the royal coach she inherited before she had that two and half ton golden monstrosity created reveals the truth. That previous one is very small, plain varnished wood with just four little golden lanterns, one at each top corner. It's still kept at Buckingham Palace together with a couple of other royal coaches created relatively recently, one by an Australian. Information Link
I want an efficient modern non-confrontational parliamentary arena, devoid of historic influences and old or fake ceremonies.
If the present Houses of Parliament building could be made satisfactorily safe it could become a museum for tourism.
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