Whereas telling them you will never walk away, infact even pass laws to prevent it makes perfect sense..
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Can you not see that all these shanigans are brought about because of an utter lack of trust and integrity between the major UK players?. Anyone outside the UK bubble is shaking their collective head in bemusement. The British establishment cannot trust anyone within it to do what they say they will do!. So what message does that send us on the outside?...
to be fair, parliament only reasserts its role as judge and jury of brexit.
Bojo can still leave with no deal anytime if parliament supports it.
That's why Bojo needs the election before Haloween.
Brits are stubborn.
“Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage.”
I think instead "a house divided cannot stand." But in this context it is ,if they lie to their own people ,for even dubious advantage, they are untrustworthy ,and I will not give them the benefit of the doubt.
Clearly you have little to no experience in negotiating have you?
Now your clown has a new threat, telling Juncker he will refuse to ask for an extension.
Talk about amateurs, and his fans are no better.
"So what message does that send us on the outside?... !
Everything people said about the British in jest is untrue.
Far too flattering, by an order of magnitude.
Brits are stubborn
Nothing is foolproof to talented fools
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Any fool can threaten to be a suicide bomber, hard to make trade deals with mentalities like that afterwards.
Hasn't it penetrated that it is simply impossible to make a clean break? all that going through the motions will achieve is years of negotiations to not merely disconnect ourselves, but then set the connections up again.
Utterly mad
I make an observation on a point of view and your mental agility can only respond by being insulting.
Brexit deserves better than the sort of support you can supply
That chip on your shoulder grows daily.
As usual at best blinkered from you. You imply my stand point is mad, and tell me I have never been involved in negotiations, I reflect it back and you spit dummy out. You are a bad advert for remain, your attitude, insults and put downs have merely served to polarise opinions and make any leavers simply more entrenched in their opinions. I really dont understand the mechanism of my bothering to converse with you. Were you talking in a pub I, d simply move away and completely ignore your utterances.
You have argued, insulted and attempted to put down every single person with the slightest support for leaving. The sensible ones have simply moved on and stopped posting. Its quite a long list now OG, you have not modified any opinions, merely put folk off expressing them,which is probably your goal.
You have ruined this thread, a thread which you have taken and assumed ownership of with cut and paste combined with denied personal put downs.
You are welcome to keep the thread for your personal glorification.Its become your life.
Perhaps you should take stock of the actual time and effort you have inflicted on here, and decide if its a productive use of your time. I suspect not.
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The notion that Boris is anything other than a fraud is summed up by this piece in the Guardian re the recent meetings and outbursts from our Prime Idiot.
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That meeting in Berlin, followed by others with EU leaders in Paris and Biarritz, raised hopes that the prime minister was serious about a deal. But optimism in Brussels rapidly dissipated, after Johnson prorogued parliament and stepped up his no-deal rhetoric, while failing to put any proposals on paper.
A spate of recent reports from London analysts that a deal was becoming more likely were dismissed as “completely wrong” by one senior EU official.
Johnson’s latest rhetorical fancy – that, like the Incredible Hulk, the UK would break out of its “manacles” on 31 October – has further fuelled EU scepticism about his sincerity.
Describing the language as “not very surprising”, the EU source said: “It all makes it look like it’s a bit of a joke. We are talking about something extremely serious. The consequences of no deal will be extremely serious and it looks like this is being treated as a game in which you are the hero sort of story rather than [dealing] with real lives.”
If ever there was the wrong man in the wrong job at the wrong time, that is Boris Johnson
Putin must be rubbing his hands in glee.
Quite rightly the EU see him for what he is, an idiot that cannot be trusted to negotiate honestly.
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That meeting in Berlin, followed by others with EU leaders in Paris and Biarritz, raised hopes that the prime minister was serious about a deal. But optimism in Brussels rapidly dissipated, after Johnson prorogued parliament and stepped up his no-deal rhetoric, while failing to put any proposals on paper.
A spate of recent reports from London analysts that a deal was becoming more likely were dismissed as “completely wrong” by one senior EU official.
Johnson’s latest rhetorical fancy – that, like the Incredible Hulk, the UK would break out of its “manacles” on 31 October – has further fuelled EU scepticism about his sincerity.
Describing the language as “not very surprising”, the EU source said: “It all makes it look like it’s a bit of a joke. We are talking about something extremely serious. The consequences of no deal will be extremely serious and it looks like this is being treated as a game in which you are the hero sort of story rather than [dealing] with real lives.”
If ever there was the wrong man in the wrong job at the wrong time, that is Boris Johnson
Putin must be rubbing his hands in glee.
Quite rightly the EU see him for what he is, an idiot that cannot be trusted to negotiate honestly.
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No Zlatan, I am not the one resorting to insults, you are. and predictably you did it again.
Please try to post on topic
As Fingers says. You are a liar. You have done little else but insult people.
Or perhaps you are denying calling my stance mad or that I, ve never been involved in negotiations.?(and thats only in last few pages)
Its in your posts OG. You know full well where. I suspect you are delusional. My comments are not insults, they are observations. You are a liar, I suspect you are mad and believe you to be delusional. Count your posts on here OG. Thats not quite normal is it?
Your accusation of me saying Brexit would produce some "nice deals" was a complete and utter fabrication which you have yet to apologise about. Just more evidence of you being a liar. I never said anything of kind and you know full well I didnt.
Either apologise or find my "nice deals" post. Doing neither proves you are a liar. You, ve had ample time to find the offending post.
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spotted this:
a gust of wind has blown a copy of the Daily Mail in front of the beam..
a gust of wind has blown a copy of the Daily Mail in front of the beam..
Too many words: Quite rightly the EU see him for what he is, an idiot that cannot be trusted.
Yes it does. As I’ve said before, if you don’t fear no deal, why should the EU?
Agreed 50 but imagine how UK would celebrate if EU went into negotiations stating they would never implement no deal,infact if EU unilaterally outlawed no deal no matter what UK agreed or more importantly didnt agree to.
Removing no deal by either side would be undermining negotiations for the side removing it. Its a terrible negotiation stance.