Brexit, for once some facts.

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Quite a few Grand Designs houses (and similar programs) have cost the best part of a million. For one building.

95 million across 69 towns and cities is hardly going to make much difference.

Historic towns to benefit from £95m boost named

Historic English shopping centres will benefit from a £95m regeneration fund, the government has said.

In all, 69 towns and cities will receive money, with projects aimed at turning disused buildings into shops, houses and community centres.
 
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Quite a few Grand Designs houses (and similar programs) have cost the best part of a million. For one building.

95 million across 69 towns and cities is hardly going to make much difference.

Historic towns to benefit from £95m boost named

Historic English shopping centres will benefit from a £95m regeneration fund, the government has said.

In all, 69 towns and cities will receive money, with projects aimed at turning disused buildings into shops, houses and community centres.
What a predicament, there will have to be a lot of head scratching to regenerate town centres where shops have failed to survive, sensibly, and on a shoestring too.
 
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Fingers isnt from Rotherham. Somebody tell Gerald what rhymes with anchor. He, s in bewilderment trying to work it out.

I don’t read his cut and paste so I didn’t realise the duffer was saying that.

Bless him.
 

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Quite a few Grand Designs houses (and similar programs) have cost the best part of a million. For one building.

95 million across 69 towns and cities is hardly going to make much difference.

Historic towns to benefit from £95m boost named

Historic English shopping centres will benefit from a £95m regeneration fund, the government has said.

In all, 69 towns and cities will receive money, with projects aimed at turning disused buildings into shops, houses and community centres.

A million pounds. Or just over is a massive amount of money for any town centre.

Your cynicism is making you sound like an old fool.

Of course more is better but we need to save up for Dans rotting vegetables and the tinning factories required for green beans.

Now stop being a moaning old git and enjoy this beautiful weekend.
 
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Now stop being a moaning old git and enjoy this beautiful weekend.
Never and of course I shall.

Our town centre has recently received a major improvment in the form of a new library (etc.) - which was projected to cost £3.4 million. Yes, it is an obvious improvement. But that was pretty much one building.

The rest of the centre needs help as well. I can't imagine the cost of really reviving it.

Of course, not being in England, it is different here. And things done (or not done) here are not likely to be mentioned in English newspapers, etc.
 

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Never and of course I shall.

Our town centre has recently received a major improvment in the form of a new library (etc.) - which was projected to cost £3.4 million. Yes, it is an obvious improvement. But that was pretty much one building.

The rest of the centre needs help as well. I can't imagine the cost of really reviving it.

Of course, not being in England, it is different here. And things done (or not done) here are not likely to be mentioned in English newspapers, etc.

The solution is simple. Lower business rates.

I looked into taking over an old blockbusters about 4 years ago and turning it into a sports shop come specialist cricket centre. The market was there where I live but they wanted 80k plus what the rent was.

Ironically the business that took it on is a massive success. It's a cafe.
 

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A million pounds. Or just over is a massive amount of money for any town centre.

Your cynicism is making you sound like an old fool.

Of course more is better but we need to save up for Dans rotting vegetables and the tinning factories required for green beans.

Now stop being a moaning old git and enjoy this beautiful weekend.
Fingers a 1million is a considerable sum for a single person,but in the context of public spaces, is very small. 4 terraced houses or 2 sets of 2 semi detached 3 bedrooms new houses just covers it. To replace the granite paving along a single central main street ,correct some of the wiring and water pipes below,and install new street furniture, including lamps will take that amount of money. Necessary work of course,but nothing spectacular. To put it in context, Dundalks main Street.. not greatly different than the rambling street in Wexford is currently getting that type of treatment at a cost of 5million
Just for the record,it was one of your coterie who flagged up the rotting vegetables worry,and the assumption that it would make the continentals rethink backstops. My contribution is to demonstrate that while, if it happens it is a minor problem to them,it is major to the consumers in the UK. The delays will not occur in leaving mainland EU, ....tariffs are not paid on exports, but can occur in the processing in British ports of imports
 
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I don’t read his cut and paste so I didn’t realise the duffer was saying that.

Bless him.
The problem is that one idiot's daft remarks are virtually identical to those of the other one to the extent of being interchangeable.
 

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Regarding the theft of the Toilet made in 18ct Gold.
A normal toilet of that form factor weighs between 60 to 80 lbs
That is with an average ware thickness of between 8 to 10 mm
The toilet stolen would have weighed in the region of 500 lbs or more if it replicated that
A 66-year-old man has been arrested over the theft of the fully-functioning toilet

Either the toilet was of very thin construction, or the thieves came with the ability to lift a heavy weight and move it safely.
 
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The solution is simple. Lower business rates.

I looked into taking over an old blockbusters about 4 years ago and turning it into a sports shop come specialist cricket centre. The market was there where I live but they wanted 80k plus what the rent was.

Ironically the business that took it on is a massive success. It's a cafe.
It isn't just business rates.

A fairly recent peripheral involvement with a low-turnover operation made me understand some of the difficulties. A location without a high number of passers-by does not get sufficiently noticed. But any location with more people is much, much more expensive and was unfeasible. Despite the empty shops.
 

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Sam Gyimah joined the LibDems today.

"What attracted me to the Conservative party was these One Nation values. What has happened since the referendum, initially slowly, but increasingly accelerated over the last few months, is that it has moved away from those values. It has become more intolerant. It has become, in the desire to neutralise Nigel Farage and the Brexit Party, more doctrinaire. "

I could nearly feel sorry for David Cameron to have friends like the Goves.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/sam-gyimah-joins-the-liberal-democrats-1-6270227
 
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Fingers a 1million is a considerable sum for a single person,but in the context of public spaces, is very small. 4 terraced houses or 2 sets of 2 semi detached 3 bedrooms new houses just covers it. To replace the granite paving along a single central main street ,correct some of the wiring and water pipes below,and install new street furniture, including lamps will take that amount of money. Necessary work of course,but nothing spectacular. To put it in context, Dundalks main Street.. not greatly different than the rambling street in Wexford is currently getting that type of treatment at a cost of 5million
Just for the record,it was one of your coterie who flagged up the rotting vegetables worry,and the assumption that it would make the continentals rethink backstops. My contribution is to demonstrate that while, if it happens it is a minor problem to them,it is major to the consumers in the UK. The delays will not occur in leaving mainland EU, ....tariffs are not paid on exports, but can occur in the processing in British ports of imports

Little things would help.

A million quid in the right hands could go a long way Dan.
 

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