Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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My point was the policy for the last 5 years not the next. Did he live here or not? or did he invest in a business then spend at least 2 years out of 5 out of the UK?
as I said, I was suspicious of how the letter ended.
On what grounds?
 

oldgroaner

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If you move to Australia, You can't even leave the country for the first 2 years. So yes if I wanted to live there I would be happy to be treated like that. Are all the people that have moved to Australia thick?
So now we are actively discouraging anyone from investing in a business because they live abroad?
Now there is a clever idea.
Most of our investors do that.

And remember this bit?
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Have lived in the UK for 15 years

Always employed, without gaps, now running own restaurant

Paid thousands of pounds in taxes

Employing several people in our restaurant, directly and indirectly

How was he always employed without gaps?
 
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So now we are actively discouraging anyone from investing in a business because they live abroad?
Now there is a clever idea.
Most of our investors do that.

And remember this bit?
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Have lived in the UK for 15 years

Always employed, without gaps, now running own restaurant

Paid thousands of pounds in taxes

Employing several people in our restaurant, directly and indirectly

How was he always employed without gaps?
My sister in law has just had a years sabbatical but she is still employed.
 
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oldgroaner

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My sister in law has just had a years sabbatical but she is still employed.
You're struggling here! :cool:
That letter won't be the only one, do you really think the person's situation was actually considered and not treated to a "knee jerk" auto reply when there are upwards of a million to process?
Oh sure!
 
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You're struggling here! :cool:
That letter won't be the only one, do you really think the person's situation was actually considered and not treated to a "knee jerk" auto reply when there are upwards of a million to process?
Oh sure!
Honestly I don't know (and neither do you) are NI records checked? are Passport records checked?
 

oldgroaner

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Honestly I don't know (and neither do you) are NI records checked? are Passport records checked?
Let's be logical about this.
Has there been enough time, organisation and work done to ensure these checks are actually nona fide?
What balance of probability would you put on that?

progress of the EU Settlement Scheme

Extract...

We don’t know exactly what proportion of people who need to apply have done so. There is no centralised record of the number of EU citizens living in the UK so we have to estimate this number using surveys, such as the Annual Population Survey and the UK Census.

There are other groups whose size is impossible to estimate at all, for example non-EU family members of EU citizens and people who are eligible under the scheme but are currently living outside the UK.

In 2018, there were an estimated 3.35 million people with EU, EEA, or Swiss nationality living in the UK. This excludes Irish nationals, who can apply but usually do not have to.

951,700 applied so far
35.9% got pre settled status
Around 2.3 million still need to apply

No figure for successful applicants
No figures for those rejected either


Get the picture?
It's a standard response .
The department involved has been overwhelmed with the workload
And it really doesn't know how big the workload is anyway!

As always incompetence rules.
In their position they must be hoping that Brexit is cancelled!;)

And the sting in the tail of this report is the caveat
* It is not possible to estimate the number of none EU citizens who must or could apply

Gotta laugh
"We are taking back control"?
Ha, ha, ha.........
 
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951,700 applied so far
35.9% got pre settled status
Around 2.3 million still need to apply

No figure for successful applicants
No figures for those rejected either


Get the picture?
around 2.3 millions have not bothered to apply.
Either they believe it's not worth staying after a no deal brexit or we wouldn't leave or we'll stay so close that it will be OK without settled status.
 
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oldgroaner

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Taken completely out of context.....He was saying this to "settle it once and for all"
Do you want me to put 108 video's on of Mrs May saying we are leaving on the 29th of March. (i'm not going to)
The point is he said it! and on many occasions too. And "Once and For all!" could never be more pertinent than right now, what is your problem with that?
Don't trust "The will of the people?"
 
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Taken completely out of context.....He was saying this to "settle it once and for all"
Do you want me to put 108 video's on of Mrs May saying we are leaving on the 29th of March. (i'm not going to)
brexit is an obsession for the conservative party. It will run and run until the conservatives lose power then brexit would be abandoned.
 

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OK folks, the Guardian/Observer are serving up more today:

No-deal Brexit will ‘instantly disrupt’ UK’s role as £174bn global data hub
University College London report warns of significant legal, economic and social disruption

A no-deal Brexit would seriously disrupt the free flow of commercially valuable data between Europe and the UK, leaving companies across the finance, hospitality, manufacturing and technology sectors facing “immense” extra costs, according to a new study by University College London.

The report, to be published this week, says potential problems post-Brexit with data transfers have received “minimal attention” in the debate over the UK’s exit from the EU, but could turn out to be as serious to the economy as more visible issues relating to cross-border trade.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/25/no-deal-brexit-will-instantly-disrupt-uk-role-as-data-hub-digital-economy

Anyone in a position to declare the article wholly inaccurate, untrue (on evidenced grounds) and to guarantee limited or no disruption?
 
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OK folks, the Guardian/Observer are serving up more today:

No-deal Brexit will ‘instantly disrupt’ UK’s role as £174bn global data hub
University College London report warns of significant legal, economic and social disruption

A no-deal Brexit would seriously disrupt the free flow of commercially valuable data between Europe and the UK, leaving companies across the finance, hospitality, manufacturing and technology sectors facing “immense” extra costs, according to a new study by University College London.

The report, to be published this week, says potential problems post-Brexit with data transfers have received “minimal attention” in the debate over the UK’s exit from the EU, but could turn out to be as serious to the economy as more visible issues relating to cross-border trade.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/25/no-deal-brexit-will-instantly-disrupt-uk-role-as-data-hub-digital-economy

Anyone in a position to declare the article wholly inaccurate, untrue (on evidenced grounds) and to guarantee limited or no disruption?
"Potential problems" Perhaps aircraft will fall from the sky like they did in the year 2000 when all the computers failed because they couldn't update. Lol
How can the article be untrue when it uses the word potential.
 
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oldgroaner

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OK folks, the Guardian/Observer are serving up more today:

No-deal Brexit will ‘instantly disrupt’ UK’s role as £174bn global data hub
University College London report warns of significant legal, economic and social disruption

A no-deal Brexit would seriously disrupt the free flow of commercially valuable data between Europe and the UK, leaving companies across the finance, hospitality, manufacturing and technology sectors facing “immense” extra costs, according to a new study by University College London.

The report, to be published this week, says potential problems post-Brexit with data transfers have received “minimal attention” in the debate over the UK’s exit from the EU, but could turn out to be as serious to the economy as more visible issues relating to cross-border trade.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/25/no-deal-brexit-will-instantly-disrupt-uk-role-as-data-hub-digital-economy

Anyone in a position to declare the article wholly inaccurate, untrue (on evidenced grounds) and to guarantee limited or no disruption?
in the Brexit World there are no such things as problems
Only Challenges
But the number of challenges is becoming a problem.
 
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oldgroaner

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"Potential problems" Perhaps aircraft will fall from the sky like they did in the year 2000 when all the computers failed because they couldn't update. Lol
How can the article be untrue when it uses the word potential.
It is amazing how leave voters trot out the same mistaken beliefs time after time.
The Millenium Bug was not just a myth,
Mitigating the millenium Bug
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But just about everyone else said it was only thanks to huge amounts of effort and years of planning that the real threat from the bug had been mitigated.

Alec Muffett, who worked at Sun Microsystems from 1992 to 2009, said: "Anyone saying the millennium bug was in some sense a damp squib is ignoring that its being a squib was due to hard work.""

But facts have never appealed to leave voters, and history is whatever they want it to be.

So you are categorically denying there is a problem?
I am so very reassured by that.
Who needs experts? Mr Gove said we don't , didn't he?
 
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