Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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I really can't see a pathway to a no deal Brexit.
But Fingers that is the current path. It requires no effort on anyone's part to achieve it. The EU cannot make the UK ask for another postponement, and it certainly cannot unilaterally offer one. The UK needs to make a proposal ,the EU already has a proposal ,so logically the UK has to make their counterproposal.
 

Danidl

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I think everything that you say and predict in your post is true, and it will happen.

I had always associated that determined, religious faith style desire to press on and believe, regardless of evidence to the contrary, with left wing political nutters. Brexit has become no different. It’s now bears absolutely no resemblance to the thing it was presented as pre-referendum. Evidence that it might not be a good idea is everywhere, but still we cling to this hope that somehow, by some fluke, we might defy the odds and that thousands won’t suffer the misery of job loss, zero-hours contract re-deployment into “battery-hen” warehouse conditions earning just above minimum wage.

It’s such a massive gamble and still don’t know what the winner collects.
On the contrary, I do not believe it to be a gamble. I have seen it as a lose ,lose situation...not even a zero sum game.
 

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Can one not simply replace the word No Deal with the more obvious Crashout?. No Deal is putting a gloss onto a really dangerous concept. People not unreasonably think that No Deal means "steady as she goes" , no change, no extra deal ..It doesn't!!!.
no, no, don't change 'no deal'. It will be used by remainers at the next by-election or GE.

 

oldgroaner

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If you think Dominic Cummings is not - at this very moment - implementing a TOTAL CONTROL plan. Then you are sorely mistaken. That man never goes anywhere without a plan. There is a plan. You can think anything you like but don't think those guys don't have a plan. And this time boys and girls - they are not going to tell you (and the opposition) about it. Cummings job - in part - is to cut out the leaks. T. May was utterly hopeless in that department.

But no plan? OG - no - just no.
Balls
Your problem is you don't know the difference between a plan and a plot
 
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oldgroaner

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Always about money for you huh?

Brexit was not about the money for us that voted for it. We knew in the short term we'd be worse off. But you remainers are so obsessed with cash! As if money can make you happy! Ha. You have much to learn.
Who do you think you are kidding? Money is everything to Tories, you only have one emotion,Greed, and you think selling out to the USA will give it to you.
How stupid is that?
Subversives the lot of you
 

oldgroaner

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P&G's spend is hardly in any form educational. Nor will BJ's massive spend be anything other than propaganda.
Suitable for consumption by the simple minded only,after all only the simple minded would trust him, just look at his record.
 
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wheeler

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No,


You’re thinking of Kak
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No, that would be a name.
As you appear to be this thread's spelling and grammar expert, you shouldn't allow yourself to make such silly mistakes.
 
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50Hertz

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Just what exactly were the Conservative party expecting to happen when they fielded an election candidate who had been deselected by the electorate because he’d previously stolen money from them? Do they really regard the public with such contempt? It is quite literally, unbelievable.

Johnson now has a working majority of just 1 vote, and that includes the votes purchased by the Conservatives for one thousand million pounds of our money.

I think the Lib-Dem success is nothing more than a clear indication that those voters want to remain in the EU. Labour aren’t clear about anything, except the fact that they hate Jews. BXP put Labour in 4th place.

What an interesting mess we find ourselves in.
 

oldgroaner

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The Express is trying to put a brave face on The by election defeat by the Lib Dems
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Boris Johnson could destroy Labour if he secures one key election pledge, poll urges
BORIS JOHNSON has created a surge in support for the Tory party since he became Prime Minister.

Wasn't much of a surge in support when he couldn't hold what had been a safe seat, was it?

At least they were more honest in the Daily Mail


Note the measly 10% for Farages personal party and Labour has ceased to exist
 

oldgroaner

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Just what exactly were the Conservative party expecting to happen when they fielded an election candidate who had been deselected by the electorate because he’d previously stolen money from them? Do they really regard the public with such contempt? It is quite literally, unbelievable.

Johnson now has a working majority of just 1 vote, and that includes the votes purchased by the Conservatives for one thousand million pounds of our money.

I think the Lib-Dem success is nothing more than a clear indication that those voters want to remain in the EU. Labour aren’t clear about anything, except the fact that they hate Jews. BXP put Labour in 4th place.

What an interesting mess we find ourselves in.
What new horror will emerge today? Labour could only manage 5% of the Vote, they may as well disband and look for useful work.
 

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