He can'd do that till he gets some sort of a Brexit done. Farage will kill the Torys if he tries before he's done that.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Here's a bit more of it:
"Remoaners in the media are alarmed at Boris Johnson’s ‘brutal reshuffle’. He is ‘rewarding Hard Leavers’, they claim. His clearout of no fewer than 17 of Theresa May’s 30-strong Cabinet, and his replacement of them with largely pro-Leave and even pro-No Deal ministers, is disturbing and shocking, moans the pro-EU set.
Not for the first time they need to get a grip. What is really shocking is that for the past three years Britain was run by Remainers. We often overlook how perverse it was that a nation which voted Leave was so dominated by a Remainer elite. Johnson’s new Cabinet redresses this undemocratic disparity between political-class sentiment and public sentiment and gives rise to a UK that is now run by Leavers. About bloody time."
Rees Mogg today:
"All these people who witter on about no deal really don’t want to leave the European Union at all. It’s just code for saying they don’t want to leave and they think the referendum is a mistake. But they are not daring to put down a motion to revoke Article 50, are they?
What would happen if Grieve etc took control of the order paper, as happened before Easter? What do they then use that order paper for?
Unless they use it to repeal Article 50, which they are not bold enough to say they want to do and there almost certainly isn’t a majority in the House of Commons to do anyway, it doesn’t stop us leaving on October 31.
These are the only two ways Parliament could stop no deal – revoking Article 50 or bringing down the Government.”
"All these people who witter on about no deal really don’t want to leave the European Union at all. It’s just code for saying they don’t want to leave and they think the referendum is a mistake. But they are not daring to put down a motion to revoke Article 50, are they?
What would happen if Grieve etc took control of the order paper, as happened before Easter? What do they then use that order paper for?
Unless they use it to repeal Article 50, which they are not bold enough to say they want to do and there almost certainly isn’t a majority in the House of Commons to do anyway, it doesn’t stop us leaving on October 31.
These are the only two ways Parliament could stop no deal – revoking Article 50 or bringing down the Government.”
Ha. Rees Mogg's parliamentary rules....
(Danny you could learn a thing or two from this man).
(Danny you could learn a thing or two from this man).
A bit more from the interview with Rees Mogg:
“Everyone thinks Boris is there to have ideas poured into his head by other people who pull the strings. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Boris has a very clear of what he wants to do and then is willing to delegate the implementation of it. He knows his own direction with incredibly thoughtfulness and thoroughness. And then he’s happy to let people follow through with what he wants done.
“I think people make the mistake of thinking that there are people warring for his ear, to whisper something into his ear and then suddenly he’ll go off and do it. I don’t get the impression from my knowledge of it that he’s like that at all.”
I put it to Mr Rees-Mogg that he is also a misunderstood figure, topping the list of what critics have described as Mr Johnson’s new “hard right” cabinet.
“The problem is that anyone who is Brexiteer is deemed to be right wing automatically even if they have got quite liberal views in other areas. I think the pigeon holing of people is usually inaccurate. I’m quite liberal on law and order. I believe in the rehabilitation of offenders. I’m not a hang em and flog em Tory.”
Now bound by collective responsibility, Mr Rees-Mogg admits there are “some things I won’t be able to do anymore.”
Friday night marked his last LBC show, and earlier this week he stepped down from his part-time role at Somerset Capital Management, the investment firm he co-founded in 2007 to conform with the ministerial code. And the jury is still out on whether he will remain chairman of the influential European Research group of Eurosceptic Tories.
“Obviously I am now part of a machine in a way that I wasn’t. I can’t do any of the remunerated things any more. Fortunately this collective responsibility business is going to suit me very well because I support Boris Johnson.”
“Everyone thinks Boris is there to have ideas poured into his head by other people who pull the strings. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Boris has a very clear of what he wants to do and then is willing to delegate the implementation of it. He knows his own direction with incredibly thoughtfulness and thoroughness. And then he’s happy to let people follow through with what he wants done.
“I think people make the mistake of thinking that there are people warring for his ear, to whisper something into his ear and then suddenly he’ll go off and do it. I don’t get the impression from my knowledge of it that he’s like that at all.”
I put it to Mr Rees-Mogg that he is also a misunderstood figure, topping the list of what critics have described as Mr Johnson’s new “hard right” cabinet.
“The problem is that anyone who is Brexiteer is deemed to be right wing automatically even if they have got quite liberal views in other areas. I think the pigeon holing of people is usually inaccurate. I’m quite liberal on law and order. I believe in the rehabilitation of offenders. I’m not a hang em and flog em Tory.”
Now bound by collective responsibility, Mr Rees-Mogg admits there are “some things I won’t be able to do anymore.”
Friday night marked his last LBC show, and earlier this week he stepped down from his part-time role at Somerset Capital Management, the investment firm he co-founded in 2007 to conform with the ministerial code. And the jury is still out on whether he will remain chairman of the influential European Research group of Eurosceptic Tories.
“Obviously I am now part of a machine in a way that I wasn’t. I can’t do any of the remunerated things any more. Fortunately this collective responsibility business is going to suit me very well because I support Boris Johnson.”
Naturally there are lots of leave posts on here, though none containing facts, plans, or reasons worth voting for.
How is the Liar king going to make Brexit work for you?
More tripe, trying to avoid talking about the mess your vote has made.
When is this "Golden Future" coming fingers?
From the Guardian
All's fair when you are a Tory politician
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/priti-patel-accused-of-breaching-ministerial-code-for-second-time?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet
Priti Patel accused of breaching ministerial code for second time
Home secretary took up £1,000 an hour advisory role before getting watchdog’s approval
All's fair when you are a Tory politician
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/priti-patel-accused-of-breaching-ministerial-code-for-second-time?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet
Priti Patel accused of breaching ministerial code for second time
Home secretary took up £1,000 an hour advisory role before getting watchdog’s approval
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Actually it's you that thickens, you didn't call Tom out as a doppelganger for me, did you?
And your posts are consistent with who you did.
You really need a better memory if you want to lie.
And here is a good tip.. get rid of the head wand.
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You are, in providing us with examples of how mad this Make America Great Again viewpoint of yours really is,
And the 300 hedge funds that expect to rip off the public stand squarely at my back.
This is the sort of nonsense you can expect from the son of a coal man who has had an expensive education and now imagines himself an aristocrat
Don't stop it! let the punters learn that you really shouldn't put your trust into a criminal organisation like the leave campaign, without suffering the consequences.
Here is something interesting.
The Times is reporting that Vote Leave Chief Executive Matthew Elliott will be joining Sajid Javid at the Treasury.
Elliott was a founding member of the group the ‘Conservative Friends of Russia’ – noticeable for its uncritical cheerleading of Vladimir Putin.
There are some truly unwholesome characters in the Tory ranks, aren't there?
Why on Earth are groups like ‘Conservative Friends of Russia’ permitted?
Do the people who vote these clowns into the HOC know what their representatives get up to?
And who they actually serve?
It makes you wonder just who or what is "Taking back control"
The Times is reporting that Vote Leave Chief Executive Matthew Elliott will be joining Sajid Javid at the Treasury.
Elliott was a founding member of the group the ‘Conservative Friends of Russia’ – noticeable for its uncritical cheerleading of Vladimir Putin.
There are some truly unwholesome characters in the Tory ranks, aren't there?
Why on Earth are groups like ‘Conservative Friends of Russia’ permitted?
Do the people who vote these clowns into the HOC know what their representatives get up to?
And who they actually serve?
It makes you wonder just who or what is "Taking back control"
It won't make any difference, will it?
Brexit will be an absolute disaster, what is a mystery is how so many people fail to see what is coming and cling to vain hopes of a "Glorious Future"
About "Bloody time" as the fool that wrote that article put it, that the leavers were held responsible for what happens.
Watch them run to blame someone else, it will all be the fault of the EU.
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There is nothing wrong with aspiring to a set of clearly defined standards. What is it about his rules that you specifically object to? What is so terrible?
Objecting to and criticise anything and everything that a particular person does based on nothing more than their political standing is way beyond stupid. We see this all the time from sore headed remainers and stroppy sour faced Democrats in the US. They will destroy a good, productive and beneficial idea based on nothing more than a dislike of the person who thought of it. This “nappy filling” temper tantrum type behaviour must stop. Grow up.
The Observer reckons Boris will try to bypass Article 50 in this way
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So the only viable route to leaving the EU with a deal is to leave May’s WA unratified in its box and bypass Article 50 altogether. This can be achieved via a free trade agreement (FTA) similar to Canada’s but with enhanced mutual recognition of services, as well as security and criminal justice cooperation.
Since it would take time to negotiate and conclude such a deal, we would need short-term bridging arrangements to keep trade flowing freely in both directions while the details of the long-term FTA were being hammered out. The UK and the EU would continue to recognise goods and services as conforming with their standards, unless and until relevant laws are changed. Most of these bridging arrangements could be implemented (at least in the short term) through the UK and the EU using unilateral powers under the umbrella of a political agreement, as opposed to needing a formal legal agreement.
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So the only viable route to leaving the EU with a deal is to leave May’s WA unratified in its box and bypass Article 50 altogether. This can be achieved via a free trade agreement (FTA) similar to Canada’s but with enhanced mutual recognition of services, as well as security and criminal justice cooperation.
Since it would take time to negotiate and conclude such a deal, we would need short-term bridging arrangements to keep trade flowing freely in both directions while the details of the long-term FTA were being hammered out. The UK and the EU would continue to recognise goods and services as conforming with their standards, unless and until relevant laws are changed. Most of these bridging arrangements could be implemented (at least in the short term) through the UK and the EU using unilateral powers under the umbrella of a political agreement, as opposed to needing a formal legal agreement.
Oh do give over, this man is a pretentious prat intend on misleading the public with this faux "respect me I'm superior to you" crap.
If you support this sort of pretence, you are the one needing to grow up, it's a throwback to the past of lords and serfs.
There is everything wrong with the following statement
"There is nothing wrong with aspiring to a set of clearly defined standards. What is it about his rules that you specifically object to? What is so terrible? "
What is wrong is the notion that he or you have the right to impose your personal standards on people you regard as underlings.
And then you repeat the error of assumed superiority,
Indeed this "This “nappy filling” temper tantrum type behaviour must stop. Grow up.
Who or what do you imagine you are to make comments like that?
The day will never come when you tell me what to do or think, kindly remember that.
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What a very odd list. (Yes, "very" used intentionally.) Numerous fullstops not followed by double spaces. "imperial" without a capital. "Esp." instead of "Esq.".