Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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There is nothing wrong with preserving heritage and magnificent buildings. The reason some countries don’t do it is because they have nothing worth saving.

I’m sure Germany would have preserved their medieval cities had my uncle and his colleagues not piloted Lancasters there 75 years ago.
Have you been around Germany?. Even those cities which suffered damage were rebuilt as much as possible in the old style Nuernburg, Heidelberg being examples.
 

flecc

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There is nothing wrong with preserving heritage and magnificent buildings. The reason some countries don’t do it is because they have nothing worth saving.
Surely the other way round? Most of the things we preserve have no merit whatsoever, such as Battersea Power Station chimneys and the Croydon Power Station Chimneys at IKEA. Not to mention the old CEGB power station turned into the Tate Gallery.

Thinly disguised avoidance of demolition costs and new building costs.

The Houses of Parliament have long been unfit for purpose, hence the modern building erected opposite to house MPs and staff. Now the old building is crumbing and in need of frightenly expensive restoration which will still leave it hopelessly unfit for purpose, it's time to demolish.

After all, it's not even truly historic but an 1870s fake which has cost a fortune in maintenance ever since completion.
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Zlatan

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Corbyn is flawed. But compared to your idols - farage, boris, reese mogg - and their track record of the past few years, he will do just fine.
Fingers has never championed any of the MPs you mention, and the reason those same MPs are holding so much power now is directly related to Corbyn's inability and his poor image amongst normal voters.
Had we had the remotest capable labour party and leader Tories would have lost last GE.
 

Fingers

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Surely the other way round? Most of the things we preserve have no merit whatsoever, such as Battersea Power Station chimneys and the Croydon Power Station Chimneys at IKEA. Not to mention the old CEGB power station turned into the Tate Gallery.

Thinly disguised avoidance of demolition costs and new building costs.

The Houses of Parliament have long been unfit for purpose, hence the modern building erected opposite to house MPs and staff. Now the old building is crumbing and in need of frightenly expensive restoration which will still leave it hopelessly unfit for purpose, it's time to demolish.

After all, it's not even truly historic but an 1870s fake which has cost a fortune in maintenance ever since completion.
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Nonsense. We need to keep old stuff. Let the future decide if it’s historic when the time comes.

As for the h.o.c the best thing about it at the moment is this

 

jonathan.agnew

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Fingers has never championed any of the MPs you mention, and the reason those same MPs are holding so much power now is directly related to Corbyn's inability and his poor image amongst normal voters.
Had we had the remotest capable labour party and leader Tories would have lost last GE.
A few corrections. Fingers does not have the capacity to champion anything. But like you he voted leave. You are saying that, like him, you lacked the intelligence to recognise how stupid and craven an act that was. That you needed someone else to stop you from doing it. Do you realize what a damning inditement that is? Of yourself, your knobby little friend and vote leave in general?
 

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The other day we saw discussion of the 30 billion increase in cost of HS2.

Just wondering how much more it would cost to make sure it can continue running at 38.1C (or whatever everyone thinks will be needed by the time it starts)?

It would be a pretty typical mistake for it to be built and then have to formal opening in July/August. With services limited to a low speed or being cancelled due to inability to cope with the heat.
 
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Fingers

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Apparently he knows you intimately, its a compliment my knobby little friend.
It is rather a strange post. Drugs have a lot to answer for.

It’s ok. He’s just really, really angry at life. It’s better he takes it out on me than his partner or children.

I’m thinking acceptance has finally hit home and he has realised how insignificant and impotent he is.

Every nightmare he has envisaged has finally happened. Grief affects us all in different ways.

I forgive him. I know there is a good man inside him sometimes.
 
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Fingers

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The other day we saw discussion of the 30 billion increase in cost of HS2.

Just wondering how much more it would cost to make sure it can continue running at 38.1C (or whatever everyone thinks will be needed by the time it starts)?

It would be a pretty typical mistake for it to be built and then have to formal opening in July/August. With services limited to a low speed or being cancelled due to inability to cope with the heat.

They use the heavy, concrete sleepers so even 50 degree heat wouldn’t affect it. It’s one of the reasons the Eurostar isn’t affected by heat.

Same as the bullet trains in Japan.
 

oldgroaner

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Well this is interesting because I thought that I’d forgotten how to read. I’ve started the Ladybird Key Reading books again, beginning with 1a. I’m now up to 6c and I still don’t know what he’s on about. Could it be Gerald, and not me ,that’s having the issues?
Great joke, when you make the most indirect gags on here of any of us! and you and I have never had a problem understanding each other, have we?
You shouldn't encourage fingers , he has delusions of adequacy, and yet fell for Brexit and never recovered.
 
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oldgroaner

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The liar King is repeating the same old threats in the Express
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Boris Johnson on Brexit warpath with EU as he vows to withhold £39bn from Brussels
BORIS JOHSNON’s Brexit charge was on collision course last night after the EU’s chief negotiator said his demand for fresh withdrawal negotiations was “unacceptable”.

Repeating a failed experiment to impress simple minded supporters
Great typo worthy of fingers "Johsnons's"
 
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oldgroaner

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In the Daily Mail
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So much for the election pact! Nigel Farage savages Boris Johnson's maverick new Brexit guru Dominic Cummings branding him 'hostile' and warning he has 'bizarre' ideas about a second referendum

Something he has suggested too in the past?
 
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