Brexit, for once some facts.

50Hertz

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A little bit more of the insidious privatisation and reduction of care of the health service. Like many for some while I've booked prescriptions and GP appointments online, this service being delivered by a private company, EMIS Health, on behalf of many GPs.

Now they've added the following:

As you will be aware, Patient Access enables you to access certain GP services online, including booking appointments and ordering repeat prescriptions.

We have now extended the appointment booking feature of Patient Access into pharmacies.

Certain services which patients would typically book with their GP practice, such as treatment for sore throat or hay fever, can also be delivered via pharmacies. Other services, such as hair loss treatment and antimalarial medicines, are not available to most, or to any patients on the NHS.

By enabling users to book appointments in pharmacies (as well as their GP practice) within Patient Access, you are able to access a greater choice of appointments. This also helps to alleviate pressure on GP practices.

Pharmacies are private businesses of course.
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I’ve just been given a service called 24 hour Private GP. It’s a “free extra” with health insurance that I have and sits alongside my regular GP service.

24 Hour Private GP is supposed to give, 24 hour 365 days per year access to a GP within 2 hours, but via telephone or video link. Apparently, they can prescribe and do referrals. Let’s see how that goes. I can see this becoming the thin edge of wedge which finally sees off the traditional face to face GP’s surgery. Actual face to face consultation only being available to those who pay or have the insurance.
 
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I’ve just been given a service called 24 hour Private GP. It’s a “free extra” with health insurance that I have and sits alongside my regular GP service.

24 Hour Private GP is supposed to give, 24 hour 365 days per year access to a GP within 2 hours, but via telephone or video link. Apparently, they can prescribe and do referrals. Let’s see how that goes. I can see this becoming the thin edge of wedge which finally sees off the traditional face to face GP’s surgery. Actual face to face consultation only being available to those who pay or have the insurance.

Well I see it as a natural progression.

Anyone over 50 will be worried now. But in ten years time I'd rather just log on in the comfort of my living room and talk to a doctor face to face. I hate waiting rooms with all the coughing and snivelling.

Makes sense imo
 

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One small step for sanity. What I cannot understand is why any of the 274 would be prepared to vote themselves out of relevance ..if even for a month. If they are so hell bent on Brexiting ,the door is always open to do so..Even if it means stuffing the agenda or order paper with unimportant or un urgent prattle.
brexit is brexit, meaning: the conservative government has to deliver it and there seems that the only way to do brexit before Halloween is to stop MPs voting for extending A50.
After we are out, BJ will start negotiating and this time, he can be as cuddly as a small Russian bear.
if even for a month.
actually only 2 weeks holiday before Halloween.
BJ wanted a new session of parliament to start immediately after brexit.
 

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Q1)Have you invested any money in BXP?

A) No

Q2) Having invested no money in BXP, is the way BXP use its funds any of your business?

A) No

So why are you like Esther Rantzen on Cat Worming tablets? You are getting all steamed up about some imaginary rip-off, that hasn’t even happened, that may or may not happen, that you have absolutely no financial stake in and is none of your business. If people feel that they haven’t had value for their contribution to BXP, that’s their business not yours.

There are plenty of real financial scams, that unlike BXP, have actually happened. The state pension is a good one for you to get your teeth into if you are looking for a starting point.
With respect.. It is all our business..all 500 million of us. This private organisation has funded the election of a number of now public representatives. They are the Public Representatives primarily of UK people, but because they are now in the EU Parliament, they are unfortunately my representives also. I tend to refrain from commenting on your local politicians in UK parliamentary system, but these characters have made their behaviour my business.
 

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brexit is brexit, meaning: the conservative government has to deliver it and there seems that the only way to do brexit before Halloween is to stop MPs voting for extending A50.
After we are out, BJ will start negotiating and this time, he can be as cuddly as a small Russian bear.
I understand the politics, but the rationale for a PARLIAMENTARIAN to volunteer to not attend Parliament is bizzare
 

oldgroaner

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Q1)Have you invested any money in BXP?

A) No

Q2) Having invested no money in BXP, is the way BXP use its funds any of your business?

A) No

So why are you like Esther Rantzen on Cat Worming tablets? You are getting all steamed up about some imaginary rip-off, that hasn’t even happened, that may or may not happen, that you have absolutely no financial stake in and is none of your business. If people feel that they haven’t had value for their contribution to BXP, that’s their business not yours.

There are plenty of real financial scams, that unlike BXP, have actually happened. The state pension is a good one for you to get your teeth into if you are looking for a starting point.
quite clearly you intend not to understand, so be it.
This is a dictator making a play for power using suckers to back him, and if that fails make a profit, and you appear to be OK with that.
 
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Boris Gaffe of the day in the Daily mirror
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-kipper-rant-utterly-18335542
Boris Johnson's kipper rant utterly unravels as EU brand his fishy claims untrue

Boris Johnson's bizarre kipper rant has utterly unravelled after the EU revealed that the regulations that meant the smoked fish had to be wrapped in plastic were in fact decided by the UK.

The favourite to the next Prime Minister waved the bagged smoked fish above his head during the final Tory hustings.
Addressing the crowd in east London, Mr Johnson said the plastic wrapping it was in was an example of EU rules increasing business costs.

He said the "plastic ice pillow" for smoked kippers was "pointless, expensive, environmentally-damaging health and safety" and an example of EU red tape.
 

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I understand the politics, but the rationale for a PARLIAMENTARIAN to volunteer to not attend Parliament is bizzare
I reckon BJ could call a GE in November. That will automatically terminate the current session at least 25 days before GE date.
 

50Hertz

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quite clearly you intend not to understand, so be it.
This is a dictator making a play for power using suckers to back him, and if that fails make a profit, and you appear to be OK with that.
BXP is a political party. It doesn’t represent what I want, so I don’t vote for or financially support it.

Some people believe that BXP does represent them and will deliver them a better outcome than the one they currently have, so they support them either with a vote, with money, or with both. That’s their choice and they may, or may, not live to regret their choice.

That’s the sensible stance.

Just because you don’t like the BXP, that doesn’t mean that you should get upset by proxy for someone you don’t know who hasn’t lost any money.

That’s the silly stance.

If Farage is so bad and so many people hate him and his BXP, you stand against him with your policies. If BXP is as bad and corrupt as you make out, you will wipe the floor with him and his party. That’s how it works.
 
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50Hertz

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With respect.. It is all our business..all 500 million of us. This private organisation has funded the election of a number of now public representatives. They are the Public Representatives primarily of UK people, but because they are now in the EU Parliament, they are unfortunately my representives also. I tend to refrain from commenting on your local politicians in UK parliamentary system, but these characters have made their behaviour my business.
I agree, I don’t particularly want to see them there either. However, we must respect the fact that the system currently in use allows them to be MEPs.

The required action to oust them is to propose and campaign on the basis of something which people find more appealing. It’s dead simple really.
 

50Hertz

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Well I see it as a natural progression.

Anyone over 50 will be worried now. But in ten years time I'd rather just log on in the comfort of my living room and talk to a doctor face to face. I hate waiting rooms with all the coughing and snivelling.

Makes sense imo
I think video consultations definitely have a role to play in the future and can be useful in taking pressure of GP’s. I also like the fact that I have the service through private insurance as an enhancement to my regular and traditional GP appointment system. I will ensure that I always have that.

There is an enhanced risk factor when consulting via telephone or video link. It’s ok as an enhancement, but that’s all.
 

50Hertz

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Could also be a safety factor though, Harold Shipman would have hated the idea.
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That’s why my GP is a friend of 30 years standing. Too many Shipman’s, qualifications from dubious nations and ISIS Doctors out there.
 
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I’ve just been given a service called 24 hour Private GP. It’s a “free extra” with health insurance that I have and sits alongside my regular GP service.

24 Hour Private GP is supposed to give, 24 hour 365 days per year access to a GP within 2 hours, but via telephone or video link. Apparently, they can prescribe and do referrals. Let’s see how that goes. I can see this becoming the thin edge of wedge which finally sees off the traditional face to face GP’s surgery. Actual face to face consultation only being available to those who pay or have the insurance.
What an excellent idea. So many people would be willing to pay extra for that (me for one). Get the algorithm right (to balance out resource implications) and this could inject a whole new revenue stream for the NHS.

Of course the 'they're going to wreck our NHS' gang will scream blue murder because they have no ability to recognise the NHS has serious issues and no way to think outside their one-size-fits-all-central-funded-top-down-model - but then we'd expect nothing else from them would we?
 

50Hertz

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What an excellent idea. So many people would be willing to pay extra for that (me for one). Get the algorithm right (to balance out resource implications) and this could inject a whole new revenue stream for the NHS.

Of course the 'they're going to wreck our NHS' gang will scream blue murder because they have no ability to recognise the NHS has serious issues and no way to think outside their one-size-fits-all-central-funded-top-down-model - but then we'd expect nothing else from them would we?
The NHS is broken and money won’t fix it. Done right, this video link GP could have potential.
 

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BXP is a political party. It doesn’t represent what I want, so I don’t vote for or financially support it.

Some people believe that BXP does represent them and will deliver them a better outcome than the one they currently have, so they support them either with a vote, with money, or with both. That’s their choice and they may, or may, not live to regret their choice.

That’s the sensible stance.

Just because you don’t like the BXP, that doesn’t mean that you should get upset by proxy for someone you don’t know who hasn’t lost any money.

That’s the silly stance.

If Farage is so bad and so many people hate him and his BXP, you stand against him with your policies. If BXP is as bad and corrupt as you make out, you will wipe the floor with him and his party. That’s how it works.
As I said you do not intend to understand my point
It isn't something new, just something insidious, buying the votes of people with genuine grievances that have been gulled with false promises of change for the better by people both incompetent to make those changes, and lacking the intention to make the lot of the people better, has brought nations to ruin in the past.
Rating opposition to it as silly is naive, in fact dangerous

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Attributed to Edmund Burke.
 
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flecc

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The NHS is broken and money won’t fix it. Done right, this video link GP could have potential.
And of course the current private health providers also offer a GP service, usually next day appointment priced by duration from £50 to £75 for five minutes to over £300 for long consultations.

We also have a 7 day a week walk-in service in London and Manchester from this company:

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This time next week, it is highly likely that Boris Johnson will be Prime Minister of the UK – even after his prediction that nobody would ever "elect a prat who gets stuck on a zipwire".

One of our readers went on that same zipwire the day after that little photo opportunity. In the course of making small talk while she was being fastened into her harness, our reader made a passing joke to the two operators that she hoped she wouldn’t get stuck like Boris had – which caused the operators to roll their eyes.

They then explained that if Johnson really had got 'accidentally' stuck, then they would have had to shut the ride down immediately as it wouldn't have been safe. Confused, she asked why it had happened if it wasn't an accident, and they told her "because he asked us to do it".

She didn't get a chance to ask if it was Boris or someone from Boris's team who made the request before her descent – but she made it down the line without getting left to dangle. As did everybody else that day.
 

oldgroaner

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This time next week, it is highly likely that Boris Johnson will be Prime Minister of the UK – even after his prediction that nobody would ever "elect a prat who gets stuck on a zipwire".

One of our readers went on that same zipwire the day after that little photo opportunity. In the course of making small talk while she was being fastened into her harness, our reader made a passing joke to the two operators that she hoped she wouldn’t get stuck like Boris had – which caused the operators to roll their eyes.

They then explained that if Johnson really had got 'accidentally' stuck, then they would have had to shut the ride down immediately as it wouldn't have been safe. Confused, she asked why it had happened if it wasn't an accident, and they told her "because he asked us to do it".

She didn't get a chance to ask if it was Boris or someone from Boris's team who made the request before her descent – but she made it down the line without getting left to dangle. As did everybody else that day.
"Our readers?" freudian slip there fingers?
Or have you simply forgotten to attribute the quote?
Do tell us more, just curious, agree with you by the way
 

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