Brexit, for once some facts.

[flecc]

Corbyn managed to fail A levels when you passed them if you got your name and date correct on exam paper.

You have a short memory.

Don't you remember my pointing out that Aneurin Bevan was set back a year at school by his headmaster, despairing of him ever achieving any sort of an education. But that still failed so he left school at 13 years old, later becoming one of the greatest politicians this country has ever had.

Being a successful politician isn't about educational ability, it's about a range of many other qualities, so often lacking in the twits coming out of the Eton and red brick university path.
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[flecc]

There is protest and then there is Corby, Khan & their scum.

Speaking of scum, I note that "Tommy Robinson" supports what Donald Trump says about Sadiq.

You are not in good company.
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[flecc]

Whilst I can't agree that they are all scum (that's ridiculous) I would be interested to hear the answer to the question "how did you manage to get time off work today" (to the ones of working age)

The same question should perhaps be asked of those who line the routes the Queen takes on official functions to wave little union flags. And of those who gather in large numbers outside parliament to demonstrate in favour of Hard Brexit or Remain.

And of those who are employed who spend so much of their working day posting in this forum.
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[flecc]

You never see a clean shaven man dressed in a tweed jacket, trilby hat, a stout pair of brogues and furnished with a corduroy walking stick amongst these protesters.

Now that is just silly, society has its uniforms appropriate to occasions. Of course you would never see that, any more than you'd see someone in a jump suit at a royal garden party.
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[Zlatan]

You have a short memory.

Don't you remember my pointing out that Aneurin Bevan was set back a year at school by his headmaster, despairing of him ever achieving any sort of an education. But that still failed so he left school at 13 years old, later becoming one of the greatest politicians this country has ever had.

Being a successful politician isn't about educational ability, it's about a range of many other qualities, so often lacking in the twits coming out of the Eton and red brick university path.
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I totally agree. However Corbyn has demonstrated a complete lack of everything. Besides, I was replying to comment accusing VC of being thick. As I said, at side of Corbyn and Abbot he, s a genius.
His and his parties recent success has pointed out Corbyn's failures.
We all like to moan and watch out for fascists and extreme behaviour but simple reality is the Labour party in its current guise represents the most dangerous aspects of our current crop. They want to close free speech and if you don't support them you are outcast.. We have loads of such examples, why you continue to support either Corbyn or current labour is beyond me.

 

[flecc]

I totally agree. However Corbyn has demonstrated a complete lack of everything. Besides, I was replying to comment accusing VC of being thick. As I said, at side of Corbyn and Abbot he, s a genius.
His and his parties recent success has pointed out Corbyn's failures.

But not so clear cut, VC's success was just in getting the Remain vote for the European election. Watch it disappear in a GE.

Given a five year chance, Corbyn would re-nationalise rail and water, both very widely popular measures. Cable and the LibDems given power would cancel Brexit, leaving perhaps the majority of the electorate in an uproar of protest.

You see the position is not as simple as it looks.
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[oyster]

It's a free fingers service.

So not quite a KitKat? Only 75%

 

[OxygenJames]

Glad to hear your hip is on the mend, how soon can you expect to enjoy walking the dog again?
We are expecting a phone call this afternoon from a new "Group initiative" that has been set up to give a multi discipline assessment of the Health Care requirements of the elderly.
The idea is promising for us all, of having a system that deals with all the varied problems elderly people have, rather than each separate problem one at a time, that just adds another pill and it's associated side effects.
The next move is for her to go in for a multi discipline examination, and a new care regime should be created.
It would help if this could be extended to more of the population that just us "Coffin Dodgers"
Have a nice day too!

So far I am up to short walks with the dog. My record is 800m which means down to the first field and around it and back - just about enough for the dog to have a crap and a million pees. Three miles is what he really needs but till I'm better I have a dog walker coming in every day to take care of that.

Nice to hear some positive news on your wife - looking after other people (and creatures) - I sometimes think is about the most worth-while thing we ever do during this brief period of being alive. A blessing in disguise.

 

[50Hertz]

Speaking of scum, I note that "Tommy Robinson" supports what Donald Trump says about Sadiq.

You are not in good company.
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As I have stated previously, I’m not an admirer of Tommy Robinson. But like Robinson, I think Trump was right in what he said about Khan being a loser. He is just that. He should concentrate on his domestic mess closer to home and not commentate on a Presidential visit to the U.K. He’s not been elected to do that and I would guess that a majority in the UK don’t want him as their spokesman regarding the President’s visit.

Donald Trump is irrelevant, it’s the office holder of USA President we are hosting and Khan & Corbyn should grow up and realise that. They are both idiots.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

The same question should perhaps be asked of those who line the routes the Queen takes on official functions to wave little union flags. And of those who gather in large numbers outside parliament to demonstrate in favour of Hard Brexit or Remain.

And of those who are employed who spend so much of their working day posting in this forum.
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Well yes, the ones posting on this forum (at noon on a tuesday) really are feckless scum. The lowest of the low, the pits, the kind of ne'erdowells who would swan off to a pret a manger without telling anyone at work (naturally i wouldnt dream of doing that)

 

[jonathan.agnew]

As I have stated previously, I’m not an admirer of Tommy Robinson. But like Robinson, I think Trump was right in what he said about Khan being a loser. He is just that. He should concentrate on his domestic mess closer to home and not commentate on a Presidential visit to the U.K. He’s not been elected to do that and I would guess that a majority in the UK don’t want him as their spokesman regarding the President’s visit.

Donald Trump is irrelevant, it’s the office holder of USA President we are hosting and Khan should grow up and realise that. The man is an idiot.

A majority agrees emphatically with his views on trump

 

[daveboy]

A majority agrees emphatically with his views on trump

Yes and everybody who has ever had a job has had to work with someone they don't agree with or they dislike.

 

[flecc]

But like Robinson, I think Trump was right in what he said about Khan being a loser. He is just that.

The record that I've posted shows that Sadiq Khan is very far from being a loser. On the contrary he's been very successful, not that the right wing media would ever concede that truth. Instead they'd rather distort with false stories.

For example they say Sadiq flies a balloon effigy of Trump. Untrue, Sadiq as mayor gave others permission for one to be flown, just as he's given permission for one ridiculing himself.

But of course such being fair is not something recognised or practiced by the Islamophobic right who are Sadiq's enemies.

And anyway, I don't think you know anything at all about Sadiq Khan. You just read the media attacks and believe it all implicitly, parroting it in your posts.

For your education, the spat between Khan and Trump began very long ago when Khan, as an MP holding ministerial and later shadow ministerial posts, quite properly criticised Trump's racist behaviours.

When Trump's son learnt Khan had become London mayor months before Trump became president, he launched an attack on Khan. That was repeated by Trump senior in the run up to his election when he was campaigning on an anti-Islamic basis, saying he'd keep out Muslims. Trump knows nothing of Khan, he just hates that Khan is a Muslim and that a Muslim of Pakistani origins is London's mayor. It's simply racism of the worst bigoted kind.

So of course Khan detests Trump, he's every right to.
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[50Hertz]

you really have this condescending attitude to others if the don't fit your idea of how people should think and behave don't you?
If they don't fit your view they are inferior, "Unter mensch" perhaps?

Maybe I do, and if so that is my failure.

However, you have been highly critical and have made derogatory and condescending comments regarding Nigel Farage’s speeches to the European Parliament. You haven’t exactly condemned the throwing of milkshakes at him either. Presumably this is because Nigel Farage doesn’t fit YOUR IDEA of how people should think and behave? If that’s the case, fine, but do have some consistency in your approach.

I am criticising Khan, Corbyn and their disciples for being disrespectful and if you are going to do the same against Farage, you should also take time to criticise Khan & Corbyn as well.

 

[Danidl]

As I have stated previously, I’m not an admirer of Tommy Robinson. But like Robinson, I think Trump was right in what he said about Khan being a loser. He is just that. He should concentrate on his domestic mess closer to home and not commentate on a Presidential visit to the U.K. He’s not been elected to do that and I would guess that a majority in the UK don’t want him as their spokesman regarding the President’s visit.

Donald Trump is irrelevant, it’s the office holder of USA President we are hosting and Khan & Corbyn should grow up and realise that. They are both idiots.

Regarding Mayor Khan, I am not sure I can agree that he should be just minding his own business. London is his business. The arrival of foreign visitors and their policing requirements are his business. He is an elected official of the people ,indeed having achieved more elected personal votes than any of the dignitaries whose duty is to meet the US President.
The people of London will have the opportunity to depose him, should they wish in a years time. But since he has 56% of the vote....

 

[50Hertz]

Michael Gove appears to be Trump’s chosen one.

 

[Fingers]

Maybe I do, and if so that is my failure.

However, you have been highly critical and have made derogatory and condescending comments regarding Nigel Farage’s speeches to the European Parliament. You haven’t exactly condemned the throwing of milkshakes at him either. Presumably this is because Nigel Farage doesn’t fit YOUR IDEA of how people should think and behave? If that’s the case, fine, but do have some consistency in your approach.

I am criticising Khan, Corbyn and their disciples for being disrespectful and if you are going to do the same against Farage, you should also take time to criticise Khan & Corbyn as well.

Tory scum.

The milkshake thing was hilarious! So funny watching him dripping telling his minders off then hiding in his bus the next day because three teenagers were ‘hanging about’. Brilliant! If you wrote that in a sit com you wouldn’t believe it. And little Tommy getting his too was a highlight. His little rants tickle me.

Johnson is a ****. Although without the charm and depth. He was a fat useless mess of a mayor that literally did nothing good. Nothing. You couldn’t name one thing he did that was positive. He’d be first up against the wall come the revolution.

I’d go down to Trafalgar Square but there are enough heroes down there already. Good people. People that joyously spent their meagre but well deserved benefits on the Tory mess that is public transport to get there. Hopefully most came by bus where Mayor Khan has capped the prices and made travel cheaper. One of the many good things he has done in his short tenure.

Wonderful people protesting against the grotesque.

Long live Great Britain!

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Yes and everybody who has ever had a job has had to work with someone they don't agree with or they dislike.

But khan does not work "with" trump. Trump is trying to damage the interests of the uk, in underhand ways, on behalf of very dodgy big capital in the us. "Working with" him ( i imagine you mean sniffing his butt like jeremy chunt for the sake of self promotion in a tory leadership race) is collusion with enemies of this state.

 

[oldgroaner]

As I have stated previously, I’m not an admirer of Tommy Robinson. But like Robinson, I think Trump was right in what he said about Khan being a loser. He is just that. He should concentrate on his domestic mess closer to home and not commentate on a Presidential visit to the U.K. He’s not been elected to do that and I would guess that a majority in the UK don’t want him as their spokesman regarding the President’s visit.

Donald Trump is irrelevant, it’s the office holder of USA President we are hosting and Khan & Corbyn should grow up and realise that. They are both idiots.

And Trump should not interfere in internal UK politics, as to Trump holding office? that may not last.

 

[oldgroaner]

Tory scum.

The milkshake thing was hilarious! So funny watching him dripping telling his minders off then hiding in his bus the next day because three teenagers were ‘hanging about’. Brilliant! If you wrote that in a sit com you wouldn’t believe it. And little Tommy getting his too was a highlight. His little rants tickle me.

Johnson is a ****. Although without the charm and depth. He was a fat useless mess of a mayor that literally did nothing good. Nothing. You couldn’t name one thing he did that was positive. He’d be first up against the wall come the revolution.

I’d go down to Trafalgar Square but there are enough heroes down there already. Good people. People that joyously spent their meagre but well deserved benefits on the Tory mess that is public transport to get there. Hopefully most came by bus where Mayor Khan has capped the prices and made travel cheaper. One of the many good things he has done in his short tenure.

Wonderful people protesting against the grotesque.

Long live Great Britain!

And satire, no matter where it comes from or is genuine or not!