Brexit, for once some facts.
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Let me explain very quickly what is going to happen next:
Boris will get in - he will convince Farage of his intentions to do a real Brexit and Farage will fold the Brexit party. Boris will go to the people on a pro-Brexit ticket, win - implement Brexit with a big majority in Parliament - and we'll all live happily ever after.
Got it?
Farage is just great isn't he? He's been banging on the same message for 20+ years and finally has hit some traction - and people like you just can't get your head around it.
No explanation whatsoever. That is just your prediction.
You started well, but it gradually went downhill from there.
The last phrase is obviously wrong:
The public are never happy with any government, they just have changing degrees of dissatisfaction.
And none of us live ever after.
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So what? You think any explanation will help? It's all guess work! Nobody has a fcu king clue!
What's your guess?
Yes Flecc you've got me there.
Hey - who the fuc k knows.
But that's my guess for right now.
At 55, if he lays off the beer he could well see us rejoin the EU and realise what a wasted and worthless life he's had.
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You forgot to add the bit about all those Brexit voters who are living the champagne lifestyle on a lemonade budget going bust. The job goes, the finance on the car is defaulted upon, the mortgage can’t be paid, the balance transfer deals on the plastic end and interest rates possible go up.
Then they all live to regret it. I don’t really care now. Fortunately, by a combination of good luck and hard work, I can financially insulate myself from all of the mayhem headed this way. I do feel guilty about having voted for Brexit, but I’ve admitted my error and done all I can to stop it, which is virtually nothing.
This isn’t going to end well. Boris’s lying and complete contempt for people such as you and I is plainly there for all to see, and multiple examples exist. It’s just that you and many others don’t want to look.
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You hope!. There is no likelihood that the new Parliament will be substantially different in Brexit terms than the current one. .. Maybe the Lib Dems have a few more seats, maybe Tories lose or gain a few more seats..it is hard to see any landslide.
I expect a No Deal Dropout Brexit with all that chaos,in October as the more probable outcome.
Your post started with:
Let me explain very quickly what is going to happen next:
I simply pointed out that you did not provide any explanation. I didn't claim any superior ability to guess.
I think you are correct and that is the only thing that the next PM can offer which is different to the current clusterfu**. It will probably be more of a trip, stumble through the exit door and fall on our backsides in the gutter type of departure rather than a planned and well managed event.
I'n not so sure, consider these factors:
Over three quarters of MPs are not only very strongly against No Deal but also scared of the prospect and its consequences.
Although the country is evenly divided on Brexit, polls show two thirds are firmly against No Deal, since even Leave promised them a deal. Delivering no deal against the majority's wish would frighten the Tories even more.
If you doubt the fear, in view of how unpopular they are now, Tory MPs are already discussing the awful prospect of a general election returning almost none of their MPs to parliament. Some commentators are even citing when similar happened to a ruling party in Canada.
Boris Johnson is one of the most treacherous characters one can ever have the misfortune to know of. He has never had his heart in Brexit. Back in 2016 he refused to declare until Cameron declared for remain. Then Johnson chose Leave since he always meant to position himself as a rival for future PM position.
So having achieved that, I wouldn't put it past him to present a deal that is virtually May's in all but name, relying on his popularity and powers of persuasion to swing the vote in a way the unpopular Theresa May never could.
So a BRINO Brexit is still very much on the cards as being easily possible, don't bet against it.
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Well Smarty pants that depends on your definition of explain. I explained what would happen next. You want me to explain the explanation. Whatever.
you are the one who hasn't "Got it"
Can't you read? I already posted what will happen, there will be no "all living happily," just mayhem
the only beneficiaries will be your squalid bunch of buddies from the ERG and Adam Smith Institute swindling hedge funds in the background.
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I fear we'll have no deal brexit for a while.
BJ won't be able to do a deal before November. He may as well let the deadline lapse, then say oops! sorry, but we are out!
Half the country will applaud him for resisting parliament.
He then starts serious negotiation with the EU, telling them not to worry about tariffs, the UK won't charge much and won't check the lorries coming to Dover anyway.
He'll accept to pay half to two third of the money we previously talked about for a free trade deal.
I can see this happening too....When they thought we were coming out on the 29th of March, Portugal announced they would allow visa free travel, have a special lane at airports for the UK to avoid queues and keep free emergency health care. (as long as the UK did the same) a week later Spain said exactly the same. I even think if the EU Parliament told them they couldn't do this, they would do it anyway. It's only ever been the UK that has followed the rules in the past, other countries seem to ignore any rule the don't like and that has always been our problem.
Actually he is a menace and people like you unable to see that, what is going to change for the better when Farage's own words were
Brexit isn't going to solve any of our domestic problems?
Like your statements Brexit is worthless to the public, so who in fact are you working for, and why? what's in it for you personally?