Brexit, for once some facts.

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Who is she going to take votes off...…..The Lib Dems ?
If she were launching a party, your reply might have made some sense.

MEP nominations closed 25th April so, even were it a party, it couldn't stand.

No, it is a site which seems to be making tactical voting suggestions. Should be up now, but wasn't a minute ago.

NOW UP!
 
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If she were launching a party, your reply might have made some sense.

MEP nominations closed 25th April so, even were it a party, it couldn't stand.

No, it is a site which seems to be making tactical voting suggestions. Should be up now, but wasn't a minute ago.

NOW UP!
My Mistake :oops:
 

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Who is she going to take votes off...…..The Lib Dems ?
she only wants remainers to vote tactically, that is often voting for Labour.
remainers united don't have candidates.
 

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then you confirm flecc's theory that many leave voters will stay away from the second referendum and remainers would win with a bigger margin than even the polls suggest.
I think You're right woosh but we would win a third and the forth,fifth,sixth and seventh would be too close to call. :D
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Actually in that unlikely event leave would lose every one of them
 

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Woosh said:
Would you support a second referendum if there is an option to vote for no deal brexit?



then you confirm flecc's theory that many leave voters will stay away from the second referendum and remainers would win with a bigger margin than even the polls suggest.
which just goes to show that all the talk of 'peoples vote' 'confirmatory referendum' and all the other BS is just a way to try and overturn the result of the original vote. We had a vote. No need for a second one
 

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which just goes to show that all the talk of 'peoples vote' 'confirmatory referendum' and all the other BS is just a way to try and overturn the result of the original vote. We had a vote. No need for a second one
So you want a result that is absolute rubbish because you don't like someone snatching your booby prize that will cause mayhem?
That's what the situation amounts too.
It has turned out badly and leave voters can't admit they made a mistake to think otherwise.
 

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which just goes to show that all the talk of 'peoples vote' 'confirmatory referendum' and all the other BS is just a way to try and overturn the result of the original vote. We had a vote. No need for a second one
of course remainers try to overturn the last result by using a democratic and legal mean, in the same way brexiters wanted and got a referendum in 2016.
Farage said the same, 52/48 is unfinished business.
Even if it were 60/40 or 67/33 in 1975, it's still the right of voters to ask for a rematch.
 

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of course remainers try to overturn the last result by using a democratic and legal mean.
Farage said the same, 52/48 is unfinished business.
Even if it were 60/40, it's still their right to ask for a rematch.
it could go on and on and we would be in a constant state of limbo. This is your choice . We will do what you vote for. Or words to that effect from the government. If we cannot take their word what is the point in engaging
 
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although I can understand that if somebody comes to spoil my event, I won't be very forgiving but have no interest in public brawling.

That picture was from the ES:
The guys causing the trouble are the far right left wingers that you can clearly see in your photo. They often dress in black, arm themselves with flags with poles that they use as weapons and they cover their faces. Look at your photo. Which ones do you think are causing the trouble 4 against 1?
 

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This thread is about Brexit some facts have you forgtten? so this subject belongs on a forum dedicated to rating nut case extremists not here.
And you are now trying to somehow support Tommy Robinson by pointing out there are bigger nutters around?
We know, please post on topic.
Tommy Robinson is standing for MEP as a Brexit campaigner. I thought I had explained that to you. Try giving your head a knock from the side. It might jog whatever's not working back into action. If that doesn't work, try the pills again.
 
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The guys causing the trouble are the far right left wingers that you can clearly see in your photo. They often dress in black, arm themselves with flags with poles that they use as weapons and they cover their faces. Look at your photo. Which ones do you think are causing the trouble 4 against 1?
Whether he attracts troubles or troubles follow him wherever he goes, I have no interest in your candidate.
Look at his past memberships, do you think he is a changed man since the EDL got banned?
 
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Who is she going to take votes off...…..The Lib Dems ?
That's right. People have already decided which side they're on. Starting a new party won't change anything with one exception. Tommy Robinson can drag votes off the other parties by his sheer populatity. I can't think of any other UK politician that can draw crowds like he can. He is definitely helping the Brexit side.

 

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Whether he attracts troubles or troubles follow him wherever he goes, I have no interest in your candidate.
Look at his past memberships, do you think he is a changed man since the EDL got banned?
Looking at your photo, I'd say that it's just a typical event at Speakers Corner and probably nothing to do with TR. You get these guys just spouting their stuff and holding a placard or similar, and when the far right left wingers turn up, they try to shut them up by intimidation and violence. That's what that photo looks like to me.
 

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Looking at your photo, I'd say that it's just a typical event at Speakers Corner and probably nothing to do with TR. You get these guys just spouting their stuff and holding a placard or similar, and when the far right left wingers turn up, they try to shut them up by intimidation and violence. That's what that photo looks like to me.
you should look at the analyses after TR's shows, see who pays him to stage his shows and what he and is cohorts actually say.
The brawling is only part of the act, it costs us money to police and put the hooligans in jail for a few days but words are more significant than brawling.
He does not have a proper job, no fortune left by his parents, how does a budding politician without money do for his living expenses?
You are a logical guy, follow the money.
 
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it could go on and on and we would be in a constant state of limbo. This is your choice . We will do what you vote for. Or words to that effect from the government. If we cannot take their word what is the point in engaging
Why on Earth did you accept the word of a Conservative politician who lied that he would honour the referendum, and more Conservative politicians that promised the Earth from Brexit?
You were mugged!
Learn from that experience, don't repeat it by believing Farage he's the biggest liar of the lot!
The irony is the only people who have been truthful were the EU.
They didn't fold as predicted, did they?
 
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