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Zlatan said:
And its true but its an old point so obviously irrelevant that all EU comissioners are white male middle class because Danidl and a few others are happy to be led up garden path by them to exclusion of all other ethnicities like Asian descent, Afro Carribean, etc etc etc... Well actually all the dark skinned folk of EU making up around 1 in 7 of population but 0.8% of MEPs. Its not a problem because the white middle class males on here say it isnt.. Listrn to them Fingers you bull sh! tter..
But woe betide anyone who wants to control immigration. They are racist xenophobes but EU not... You couldnt make this sh! t up could you.
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No we couldn't but you do this all the time, banging on the same old boring drum.
So your favourite ethnic group isn't well represented? then go out and get yourself elected into office is the simple answer , instead of this continuous whinging.
No one is stopping them standing are they?
You should be asking them why they don't.
Who the hell are you to make what amounts to an attack on the " white middle class males on here"?
You claim to hate racism, then play the racist card yourself
 
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Wicky said:
Zlatan if it's such a big problem to you write to Farage about lack of MEP minorities and see what he say's ;-) I don't think there were many minorities in UKIP when he was around and I suspect more so since Tommy...

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Let me see the UK has some 73 MEPs, 29 of these are female and on a cursory glance 4 perhaps 5 are of Asian extraction... Cannot be sure the images are small.
So Mr Z , how representative is that?.
 
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Wicky said:
Zlatan if it's such a big problem to you write to Farage about lack of MEP minorities and see what he say's ;-) I don't think there were many minorities in UKIP when he was around and I suspect more so since Tommy...

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Farage is very keen on minorities. He had to search very hard to find people to take senior positions in "his" party with such despicable tweeting histories.
 
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Danidl said:
Let me see the UK has some 73 MEPs, 29 of these are female and on a cursory glance 4 perhaps 5 are of Asian extraction... Cannot be sure the images are small.
So Mr Z , how representative is that?.
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Yes, UK does realise and tries to address issue. Look at number of black MEPs when/if we leave.
How many times do I need to explain Farage is neither a fan of mine or most leavers. Holding EU in comparison to UKIP is hardly a recommendation by you Europhiles is it, but since you have, the number of black, ethnic minority, Black African descendents in both groups is very similar. Great, EU is a little less racist than Ukip, Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage. What an epitath.
Football is at least trying to address issuue, you lot just pretend it doesnt exist. (apologies 50,you admitted you dont care)
And, yes, perhaps Danidl's point the fault lies within origin countries, but that is irrelevant. It still affects EU, essentially with what got us back to this issue. The lack of connect between EU and voters. Its massive and has been getting worse since 1973.Come on, the two statistics which show EU up are firstly the 42%,turnout (overall figure) and the 3 out of 751 black MEPs. Both are appalling and the latter even more so when such as so called well educated posters defend it. Its actually quite pathetic.
Your only real argument is accepting the criticism and saying they are trying to change it. (which to be fair they have had various initiatives to change this but as yet to no avail.)
 
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oyster said:
And the source of that?

I have long suspected that someone is trying to manipulate these figures to make no-deal look far more popular than it really is. After all, they carefully leave out NI.
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The crafty swines!

Surely we should look into this? In fact maybe we should rerun the referendum as well?
 
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Truth is I’d like some honesty from the remainers on here.

What would you like now?

No cutting and pasting.

There isn’t going to be a confirmation vote. There isn’t going to be a people’s vote. There isn’t going to a second referendum?

Corbyn? Or May?

Or No Deal?
 
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Fingers said:
Truth is I’d like some honesty from the remainers on here.

What would you like now?

No cutting and pasting.
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You have been getting the truth from the remainers here.. I have cut and pasted articles, from papers which otherwise would not see the light of day on UK sites.
Just finish tonight on an observation. A Merkels view of a border on the island of ireland ,is personally distasteful to her. As a citizen of what was the DDR ,she looks on walls with distaste. It may have coloured her view when the refugee crisis struck, but it is still strong today. She spent hours reinforcing that view today at a meeting with NI and RoI border residents
 
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Zlatan said:
Yes, UK does realise and tries to address issue. Look at number of black MEPs when/if we leave.
How many times do I need to explain Farage is neither a fan of mine or most leavers. Holding EU in comparison to UKIP is hardly a recommendation by you Europhiles is it, but since you have, the number of black, ethnic minority, Black African descendents in both groups is very similar. Great, EU is a little less racist than Ukip, Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage. What an epitath.
Football is at least trying to address issuue, you lot just pretend it doesnt exist. (apologies 50,you admitted you dont care)
And, yes, perhaps Danidl's point the fault lies within origin countries, but that is irrelevant. It still affects EU, essentially with what got us back to this issue. The lack of connect between EU and voters. Its massive and has been getting worse since 1973.Come on, the two statistics which show EU up are firstly the 42%,turnout (overall figure) and the 3 out of 751 black MEPs. Both are appalling and the latter even more so when such as so called well educated posters defend it. Its actually quite pathetic.
Your only real argument is accepting the criticism and saying they are trying to change it. (which to be fair they have had various initiatives to change this but as yet to no avail.)
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Zlatan, why does it matter how many in any given group of people are from a particular ethnic background, have a particular skin colour, are of a certain sexual orientation, are of a specified gender, etc, etc? What does it have to do with anything?

I never think, my dentist’s family originated from India, or a specialist at the hospital is of Chinese heritage, or the receptionist is a white man with a local accent, or the newsreader has black skin. Why would anyone count these things, it’s insane. Could you tell me how many MEPs sport a moustache, or how many have blonde hair? It’s no more or less relevant than any other human idiosyncrasy.
 
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Zlatan said:
What on earth as that little outburst got to do with my post.
Yes, some of ERG are right wing. Well I never. Some of left are Marxist. You, d never guess would you.
Oh, and the Royals are German SachsCobergs... Except for Philip, he, s Zorba. Isnt Google amazing.
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Some of the ERG are Marxist? do you actually understand what that word means?
 
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Nev said:
I was reading about him and some of the other Ultras here today.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/04/brexit-brexiteers-brincels-ultras-war-martyrdom
There is so much news on TV and the net now that companies are desperate to get anyone in front of a camera who will be a bit controversial no matter if they have a clue what they are talking about. I had not heard of Marc Francois until a few months ago, now he is on the TV all the time.
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he was the best they could get , it turned out Danger Mouse was a remainer
 
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