Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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23:13 and it has not changed. Is it suspended for the night? Or stuck?
the Map had stuck a couple of times in the last hour before your comment
And by the way it has risen to
2,281,326 signatures 6:50 AM Friday
 
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oldgroaner

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Here is a helpful suggestion,since the Government wont hold a referendum,why don't the Public submit alternative petitions (None Binding of course) to show them what the will of the people really is?
Or can the two marches from both sides make that clear?
(Sorry that's taking the proverbial a bit isn't it?):D
 
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oldgroaner

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Whoosh. These figures are not real.

This internet poll like all internet polls are easily skewed.

You only have to look at the times when Arsenal won every goal of the month. The BBC stopped it. It was shown to be false.

This isn’t real mate. I will say it’s impressive and I would say or even accept half. But you have to look at the progressive rise of click bait. It’s linear. This is not how it works.

Watch how the vote of my vote I proffered works. On a micro level it shows how this should work.

Bots are at work
We know from actual everyday experience
 

oldgroaner

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Isn't it hilarious? we have leavers on here furiously denying that the petition is riddled with wrong doing.
The same people declare a referendum known to be rigged as legitimate.

Weird
 

oldgroaner

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I think a good plan would be to celebrate Brexit Day on April the 1st as
Red Face Day (just in case of future cancellation due to problems )
Whoopee Cushions and the Fish Slapping dance would be nice
And lots of Gammon and chips


That sketch sums up the UK and EU position perfectly:cool:
 

50Hertz

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STOP WORRYING, the government has Operation Yellowhammer up its sleeve. It will be a well thought out plan which has noted past mistakes and put measures in place to stop the same cock-ups happening again. They have our backs.

And before anyone starts criticising the government or mocking Operation Yellowhammer, show me one shred of evidence which casts any doubt on their ability to run the country and move forward with new and innovative ideas.
 

Kudoscycles

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her deal will not pass delay is pointless you watch kicking the can down the road that ends in no deal same as it has been from the start.
You hope!
Reality is your champions....the old farts and petulant child ....have worn out the can.
I thought Brexiteers mantra was ‘bring back control.....TM is now completely controlled by the EU and we haven’t started the free trade negotiations.
We just don’t have the politicians to do a good job of Brexit...better to revoke Article 50,then send the Tories back to negotiating school and when they are better trained maybe they can start the process again,this time with a proper plan.
KudosDave
 

50Hertz

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I’m not a person who usually pays any attention at all to what clothes famous people put on, I normally regard it as inconsequential. But, Theresa May really needs to sort her clothing out. She looks distractingly odd in those long trousers coupled with a short jacket. The natural crookedness of her gait makes her take on the appearance of a wading bird with a birth defect. I suspect that someone has tried to tell her that she looks hideous, but...........well we know the rest.
 

Kudoscycles

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STOP WORRYING, the government has Operation Yellowhammer up its sleeve. It will be a well thought out plan which has noted past mistakes and put measures in place to stop the same cock-ups happening again. They have our backs.

And before anyone starts criticising the government or mocking Operation Yellowhammer, show me one shred of evidence which casts any doubt on their ability to run the country and move forward with new and innovative ideas.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.....you traitor,get behind our PM and ride away on a ERG unicorn to the pot of gold at the end of the Brexit rainbow.
KudosDave
 

oldgroaner

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STOP WORRYING, the government has Operation Yellowhammer up its sleeve. It will be a well thought out plan which has noted past mistakes and put measures in place to stop the same cock-ups happening again. They have our backs.

And before anyone starts criticising the government or mocking Operation Yellowhammer, show me one shred of evidence which casts any doubt on their ability to run the country and move forward with new and innovative ideas.
There isn't a polite answer to that is there?
If you want me to have a go at it, can you spare me some tins of your polish please?
 

50Hertz

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You hope!
Reality is your champions....the old farts and petulant child ....have worn out the can.
I thought Brexiteers mantra was ‘bring back control.....TM is now completely controlled by the EU and we haven’t started the free trade negotiations.
We just don’t have the politicians to do a good job of Brexit...better to revoke Article 50,then send the Tories back to negotiating school and when they are better trained maybe they can start the process again,this time with a proper plan.
KudosDave
Spot on. The EU have total control of Theresa May, the timetable and the trade negotiations. They are going to tell us exactly how things are going to proceed. In fact, the EU probably has more control of the U.K. now than they have ever had in its history.

I’m sure the delay last night was a deliberate tactic to reinforce the fact that they (EU) have total control. They made her wait like a naughty child sitting outside the headmaster’s office, and then granted her less than she had asked for, but only if she promised to be a good girl. Our government’s incompetence, inability to plan and pathetic lack of negotiating skill is far beyond embarrassing. The U.K. has gone beyond a laughing stock, I think the world now look at us with a kind of stunned wonder.

What will the plan be when she is defeated a third time next week? Ask the EU for more time so that she can have a fourth go?
 
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oldgroaner

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In the interest of fairness here are the current results in Brexit Petitions

to leave the EU without a deal
392,966 signatures
Walk away we voted for a no deal Brexit
28,370 signatures
Hold a second referendum on EU membership
109,924 signatures
Revoke Article 50 and stay in the EU
2,577,556 signatures
 
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jonathan.agnew

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I’m not a person who usually pays any attention at all to what clothes famous people put on, I normally regard it as inconsequential. But, Theresa May really needs to sort her clothing out. She looks distractingly odd in those long trousers coupled with a short jacket. The natural crookedness of her gait makes her take on the appearance of a wading bird with a birth defect. I suspect that someone has tried to tell her that she looks hideous, but...........well we know the rest.
But,and i realise this is a refrain,what would we do without her? Corbyn wasnt going to stop this runaway sewage system. Without her series of self destructive detonations we could be in truly deep dooh dooh. Imagine she was marginally effective, intellint,had enough nouse to "deliver" a "brexit"
 

oyster

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STOP WORRYING, the government has Operation Yellowhammer up its sleeve. It will be a well thought out plan which has noted past mistakes and put measures in place to stop the same cock-ups happening again. They have our backs.

And before anyone starts criticising the government or mocking Operation Yellowhammer, show me one shred of evidence which casts any doubt on their ability to run the country and move forward with new and innovative ideas.
Obviously, Yellowhammer was predicated on a date of departure. Now we have three dates, the starting gun has changed from a sharp crack to, umm, a long raspberry. All too easy to start some bits too early but leave other bits until too late. I suspect that whatever its original merits, this undermines any likelihood of its "success" (whatever that means).
 

oldgroaner

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Obviously, Yellowhammer was predicated on a date of departure. Now we have three dates, the starting gun has changed from a sharp crack to, umm, a long raspberry. All too easy to start some bits too early but leave other bits until too late. I suspect that whatever its original merits, this undermines any likelihood of its "success" (whatever that means).
Not so much a starting gun as a Whoopee cushion methinks:oops:
 
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