Brexit, for once some facts.

[Kudoscycles]

Just read about Cameron resigning as an MP,I was only thinking that he must have sleepless nights over the mess he created...he only wanted to give the Euro sceptics a basing in his own party,he had no idea that not only would it split the Tories even more he has split the country and who knows maybe split Europe.
He wants to distance himself from the flack that's coming...a bit of a chicken in the end....perhaps he will join up with Gove and Boris as the 'look what a mess we have made' party.
KudosDave

 

[Kudoscycles]

Have just read that David Davis has now admitted that they cannot trigger Article 50 without a vote in parliament,to be precise they cannot trigger Article 50 without repealing the 1972 European Communities Act.
We told them that a month ago before they spent £300k on expensive lawyers trying to find a way round it.
This is completely the opposite of what they were saying only 10 days ago...I wonder why the change?
Also the Lords will hinder legislation until they view Brexit in detail,Davis won't tell even his fellow MPs so fat chance of telling the Lords,which is pretty much 100% remainers.
He also says that he is going to keep all EU negotiations secret from parliament,how undemocratic is that?
What is the argument between Boris and Rudd?
Brexit was looking unlikely now impossible.
Most Dutch seem to think that Brexit won't happen just the UK trying to get a better deal by threatening to split,wasn't it Boris who suggested that?
KudosDave

 

[SteveRuss]

Just read about Cameron resigning as an MP,I was only thinking that he must have sleepless nights over the mess he created...he only wanted to give the Euro sceptics in his own party,he had no idea that not only would it split the Tories even more he has split the country and who knows maybe split Europe.
He wants to distance himself from the flack that's coming...a bit of a chicken in the end....perhaps he will join up with Gove and Boris as the 'look what a mess we have made' party.
KudosDave

Although I totally disagree with almost everything in that man's head, I always thought he managed to hold himself well (in the way that confident politicians can) during interviews, and in the house. He was a successful customer facing smoke screen, to blur the reality from what he told us whilst the implementation of the nastier side of the Tory ideology takes place behind the scenes. Well done Dave..

I have to say now though that I believe he was one of the weakest political leaders we have ever had. At best, he was very good as the lying head of a deception campaign that allowed the 'higher ups' to implement a harsher right wing fed battle against anyone against them (the greenest government ever, the NHS is safe with us etc etc 'ad nauseam').

The once tweed jacketed lefty Tony Blair became an international proselytising Christian and adviser to any country leader that may offer him millions to be advised on how to stop being so horrible to your people. A private yacht powered missionary. Well done Tony..

I think Dave will do the obvious. Being a big fan of large corporations and of the banking sector. He could command a seven figure sum from any of the financial chums he's shielded for the past six years, if he wanted it.

 

[tillson]

I really like this guy and it's a shame he strode down. Let us hope finds a more prominent role in mainstream uk politics once we have left the EU.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1224442840910937

 

[shemozzle999]

I really like this guy and it's a shame he strode down. Let us hope finds a more prominent role in mainstream uk politics once we have left the EU.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1224442840910937

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[oldgroaner]

I really like this guy and it's a shame he strode down. Let us hope finds a more prominent role in mainstream uk politics once we have left the EU.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1224442840910937

Cleaning the Toilets or Sewers sound about right for him!
(With a worn toothbrush)
Farage should be the one doing the negotiating, on our behalf so the idle swine can be held responsible for what he has done, after all he is allegedly an MEP and the main culprit in this comic tragedy.

And when it comes to Irony
""I frankly think that this appointment amounts to pretty much a declaration of war on any sensible negotiation process."

This must referback to his election as an MEP in the first place, mind you it will look good as the motto on his tombstone.

 

[tillson]

Cleaning the Toilets or Sewers sound about right for him!
(With a worn toothbrush)
Farage should be the one doing the negotiating, on our behalf so the idle swine can be held responsible for what he has done, after all he is allegedly an MEP and the main culprit in this comic tragedy.

He's wonderful. There should be a campaign for a statue of Farage to be erected. He's done more for this country than any of the inadequates in Westminster.

 

[oldgroaner]

He's wonderful. There should be a campaign for a statue of Farage to be erected. He's done more for this country than any of the inadequates in Westminster.

I quite agree Putin must be immensely proud of this Muppet, he does at least Deserve whatever is the highest honour Russia can bestow now that the "Hero of the Soviet Union" and "Order of Lenin" have gone out of fashion.
It's good to have you back by the way.
Incidentally which country were you referring to that he has done so much good for?

 

[flecc]

He's wonderful. There should be a campaign for a statue of Farage to be erected. He's done more for this country than any of the inadequates in Westminster.

But done huge harm to the United Kingdom, now very far from united with two countries somewhat marginally wanting to leave the EU and two countries very firmly wanting to remain in the EU.

Far from erecting a statue of him, we should remove his citizenship, making him stateless.
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[derf]

But done huge harm to the United Kingdom, now very far from united with two countries somewhat marginally wanting to leave the EU and two countries very firmly wanting to remain in the EU.

Far from erecting a statue of him, we should remove his citizenship, making him stateless.
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very true - but one very jaded silver lining to this cloud that he has created (and take this as the very skewed perspective of a third world immigrant) - is that a united Britain has not been a force for good in the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, exporting arms to Saudis, all the other corruption, including tax havens and laundering money from terrorist organisations etc etc etc etc - I could work my way back via concentration camps, colonisation and racism to slavery). So, much as I too immensely regret brexit, the eventual possibility of the breaking up of Britain it causes does make all of that little five hundred year nightmare repeating itself in quite the English way it did less likely.

 

[tillson]

Far from erecting a statue of him, we should remove his citizenship, making him stateless.
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No, that should be reserved for those traitors leaving the UK to join ISIS.

 

[flecc]

very true - but one very jaded silver lining to this cloud that he has created (and take this as the very skewed perspective of a third world immigrant) - is that a united Britain has not been a force for good in the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, exporting arms to Saudis, all the other corruption, including tax havens and laundering money from terrorist organisations etc etc etc etc - I could work my way back via concentration camps, colonisation and racism to slavery). So, much as I too immensely regret brexit, the eventual possibility of the breaking up of Britain it causes does make all of that little five hundred year nightmare repeating itself in quite the English way it did less likely.

Indeed, in fact I refuse to call myself British since my nationality is English, and the UK is not Britain or Great Britain of course.

But remaining in the EU was an assurance that the UK would not be able to try repeating any of the evils of the past.
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[KTM Bike Industries UK]

No, that should be reserved for those traitors leaving the UK to join ISIS.

I suspect he's done more damage to the UK than ISIS would ever be capable of!

The racial intolerance he's promoting is now is on its way to being responsible for as many deaths in the UK as ISIS too.

 

[flecc]

No, that should be reserved for those traitors leaving the UK to join ISIS.

ISIS have probably made Nigel an honorary member!
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[derf]

I suspect he's done more damage to the UK than ISIS would ever be capable of!

The racial intolerance he's promoting is now is on its way to being responsible for as many deaths in the UK as ISIS too.

yes, I keep thinking there must be some kind of message in New Labour, Blair and Iraq being followed by Cameron and Brexit. Are the gods trying to tell us never to think we've seen the worst, or is it some kind of rising crescendo of self harm? Could it be that May capitulates and Boris takes over and holds a referendum on whether the UK should declare war on China, America and Russia?

 

[tillson]

The tiny Scottish idiot woman is deluded. She's not going to get the independence vote which she craves. The Scottish people in general are far too sensible to abandon the UK.

They know that if they leave the UK they will be bust within a week. All of Sturgeon's plans rely on suckling the BoE teat and that just isn't going to be allowed to happen. The UK will remain intact.

 

[tillson]

ISIS have probably made Nigel an honorary member!
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They have given that honour to DC for creating fertile ground upon which to prosper!

 

[derf]

The tiny Scottish idiot woman is deluded. She's not going to get the independence vote which she craves. The Scottish people in general are far too sensible to abandon the UK.

They know that if they leave the UK they will be bust within a week. All of Sturgeon's plans rely on suckling the BoE teat and that just isn't going to be allowed to happen. The UK will remain intact.

whether it breaks up or not, it will not be America's "special relationship" with Europe. It's lost its leverage.

 

[tillson]

whether it breaks up or not, it will not be America's "special relationship" with Europe. It's lost its leverage.

Nothing will change regarding the US / UK relationship. Mr Nobody (Obama) is simply sounding off during the death rattle of his failed presidency.

 

[flecc]

The Scottish people in general are far too sensible to abandon the UK.

Don't be so certain, the independence refendum result was 55% to 45% with no Brexit threat in existence.

The EU membership result was 62% to 38% in favour.

The trend is clear, and the prospect of a shrivelled independent UK teat against the much larger EU one could weigh heavily.
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